Recruiting the unrecruited

[Cain]

Well, this idea is fucking dead.

I knew all that work would be for nothing.  Thanks a lot guys, you really helped out there!

So quit working so fucking hard, god damn it.

Or you guys who all said you were interested could try pulling your goddamn weight at some point, instead of jacking off.

What idea is dead?

The idea that we try and recruit people into some sort of loose, interconnected network for online and offline mindfucks, jakes , misinformation etc  I mean, since apparently no-one else is interested in doing any work for it.

[Cramulus]

I fucked off, as requested

[Cainad (dec.)]

You're right. We should all just turn our internets off and spend the rest of our lives thinking about how Cain got eaten by a Black Swan, and never seemed to notice.

[Cain]

No, Cram you misinterpreted my words when I said you should fuckoff from that argument because you were distorting what I was saying.  I never said to fuck off from this, but obviously you cared so much about the results to do just that.

See what I mean?  Why should I put in any effort, ever again?  Even right now, with a dozen links up which you could be discussing, you prefer to have a go at me. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

http://dolphin.esosoft.net/erisbarandgrill.com/forum/index.php - Eris Bar and Grill
http://www.poee.co.uk/boards/ - POEE UK
http://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/ - Discordian blogger, routinely gets several replies per entry
http://singlenesia.com/news/ - Discordian New Network
http://www.thebeak.org/ - Discordian/political blog/online zine
http://tcsf.blogdrive.com/ - Subgenii/Discordian blogger, several readers
http://uncannilyobvious.blogspot.com/ - same as above
http://deoxy.org/index.htm - possible recruitment area
http://groups.myspace.com/eris - probably 20+ active members
http://groups.myspace.com/discordianism - as above
http://groups.myspace.com/santarchists - possible recruitment ground
http://groups.myspace.com/discordians - fewer members than the others, but still 200 profiles on the member roll
http://standrews.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204727328 (link probably wont work, put Discordian in the search engine on site) - Largest Discordian group on Facebook, roughly 1500 members.
32 other groups on Facebook, at least 10 of which have 80 odd members.
http://www.colboard.com/ and the 100,000 for Stephen Colbert group on Facebook
http://www.venganza.org/forum/index.php Yes, they're fuckwits, but...

And that's just a cursory look through my links.

Good start., also:

http://www.23ae.com (obviously)
http://www.maybelogic.net (also, obvious)

LJ groups:

There will be some crossover, but this should pick up a few bites.

http://community.livejournal.com/chosenbyeris/
http://community.livejournal.com/_sacred_chao_/
http://community.livejournal.com/discord_society/
http://community.livejournal.com/eris_activists/
http://community.livejournal.com/eristicmystics/
http://community.livejournal.com/irr_refugeecamp/
http://community.livejournal.com/the_23_club/

Sjaantze already has a pretty large group of Myspace Discordian friends, so we can use her as an ally. I can hit all of these... I'm thinking a few different posts though, to accent on whatever aspects of Discordianism seem most apparent there (23 vs sacred chao for example).

Of course, before we blitz, we should have a location to send them to and stuff for them to read...

ECH, WE CAN HAZ 4UM?

[Cain]

Yes, we'd need to debate our approach and tailor it to the groups in question.  But having them up now allows for that groundwork to be done more effectively, I think.  Getting a feel for each community will allow us to tailor our efforts, working to the crowd in question instead of some nebulous goals.

[LMNO]

Yeah, I have to say I feel kind of lost when attempting to "recruit".

I read the literature you suggested, but that's pretty much theory to me.

Do I go in all "BIP, motherfuckers!" or do I pretend to be a pinealist, or troll them, or play the recruiter from the get-go?

[Cain]

So the blend of what seemed like real information and disinformation....interesting.

Anyway, the next step would be to catalogue all sites where there are multiple Discordians, as well as individual bloggers.  Obviously I can think of 6 or 7 of these sites off the top of my head.  The step after that is to either infiltrate, or assess.  The latter being an option only when the former is impossible.  Then, after a short time, just long enough for you to be accepted while having shook the place up a bit, make your pitch.

[LMNO]

okidoki.


I'll do what I can.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I fucked off, as requested

Prof, I will smack you with a halibut if you start playing drama. There is far too much ordering and disordering to do right now for any of us to quit playing the game due to random comments on an Internet forum. If someone tells you to fuck off.. laugh and get back in the game. fortunately for us, we have neither coach nor manager to tell us we can't play and have to warm the benches. Get off the bench, get in the game, or else I WILL KILL A MOTHERFUCKER.

Now look at what you made me do.

Yeah, I have to say I feel kind of lost when attempting to "recruit".

I read the literature you suggested, but that's pretty much theory to me.

Do I go in all "BIP, motherfuckers!" or do I pretend to be a pinealist, or troll them, or play the recruiter from the get-go?

Hrmmm, I think this may have to be lesson 1. In short, I got 23 years or so of training on recruitment by some of the best (JW's are a fast growing cult).

A good speaker/debator/lecturer/recruiter speaks on the level of his audience. If we're aiming at doctors, then we better have the right language, illustrations, metaphors and presence as to gain their respect, or control of their brain. To the Pinealist, become a Pinealist. If you go to the Pinealist, who is minding his own business, tripping along merrily in his own game... and hit him with a club saying "YUO R TEH ST00PID, BiP MUTHAFUCKA"... he's more likely to resent you than listen to you. Go to him with 23's and 5's and pineal glands... then, once you're speaking the same language slowly inject new ideas, new concepts, other metaphors. Link Old Discordia with New Discordia, for it is all the same to Her. If you aren't capable of embracing WHATEVER METAPHOR is most useful for the moment, how far outside your Prison Cell are you really?

Do you think I write a How To Recruit essay for the PD crowd before we try this?

So the blend of what seemed like real information and disinformation....interesting.

Anyway, the next step would be to catalogue all sites where there are multiple Discordians, as well as individual bloggers.  Obviously I can think of 6 or 7 of these sites off the top of my head.  The step after that is to either infiltrate, or assess.  The latter being an option only when the former is impossible.  Then, after a short time, just long enough for you to be accepted while having shook the place up a bit, make your pitch.

Right on.

[Cain]

I think you should write one.

Also, I have uploaded several books on manipulation and marketing.  If you feel there is any good material you want to condense, I would suggest doing so.  Its available at http://mihd.net/1v2u48 (will also upload to Mediafire in a couple of minutes).

I think if we take this approach, teaching strategy/organization, recruiting, creation of propaganda (and any other areas we may need, ideas?) and then compile them once we are ready to go, we could have a very useful foundational document.

[LMNO]

:slaps forehead:

Rat, Cain, I just noticed one of the links posted was http://community.livejournal.com/eris_activists/


I totally forgot about that.  I created it.  The point was to counter the AFA email protests with positive messages to their targets.


I can do with it as we see fit.  First things first, I'll try to bring it back to life.

[Cain]

Second link. http://www.mediafire.com/?0tlg0ftgilx  Its an exact copy of the previous one.  I forgot to add, its 80 MB, give or take.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Cram, what say you and I skidaddle off to the AWS? We've got our work practically cut out for us; shall we start acting like proper nodes of this network?

[East Coast Hustle]

Of course, before we blitz, we should have a location to send them to and stuff for them to read...

ECH, WE CAN HAZ 4UM?

why you asking me?

personally, I'm in favor of it, and I doubt anyone whose opinion of what goes on around here actually matters for anything would disagree.