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So, I'm getting better at this tattoo stuff

Started by Sir Squid Diddimus, February 10, 2008, 06:31:03 AM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

How can it wear away if the ink is placed in the dermis, not the epidermis? I would think that the main concern would be the relative opacity of the epidermis making the tattoo less visible, as well as the difficulty of tattooing through the thick, tough epidermal layer. Oh, and the pain.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Sir Squid Diddimus

the skin on the heel wears away very quickly
its always regenerating because of all the use
pain? naw, the skin is really thick and you dont feel it much.
i did one of my first practice tattoos on my friend's heel.
it was gone in like a week or so.
the heel has some really thick, tough and rough skin.

example- a friend of mine has an in-law that used to let her friends practice on her.
after a while if she didnt like em she'd rub em off with salt, water and steel wool. granted thats not the best way to get rid of a tattoo (kinda hard core for an old lady if you ask me) but its effective and shows that with enough friction, time and...grit? you can remove one from anywhere.
so the heel really doesnt take a lot of effort.

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

If it doesn't hurt it's not penetrating to the living dermal layer, which contains the nerve endings (quite a lot of them on the heel), and if it's not placed in the dermal layer it WILL disappear eventually due to the constant renewal of the epidermal layer. The dermal layer does not exfoliate which is why a properly placed tattoo is permanent. If you damage the skin enough, you can remove enough that the ink itself is exposed and comes off with the skin, which is why dermabrasion can work to remove shallower tattoos. It doesn't work on a tattoo that is inked more deeply, which is why laser tattoo removal was invented.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Loki

Quote from: Nigel on February 17, 2008, 09:44:11 PM
If it doesn't hurt it's not penetrating to the living dermal layer, which contains the nerve endings (quite a lot of them on the heel), and if it's not placed in the dermal layer it WILL disappear eventually due to the constant renewal of the epidermal layer. The dermal layer does not exfoliate which is why a properly placed tattoo is permanent. If you damage the skin enough, you can remove enough that the ink itself is exposed and comes off with the skin, which is why dermabrasion can work to remove shallower tattoos. It doesn't work on a tattoo that is inked more deeply, which is why laser tattoo removal was invented.


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Sir Squid Diddimus

however if you go too deep into the skin it will eventually "run" or "spread" over time and become blobulous and unclear (like the one on my right arm)
its kind of touchy. there's a happy medium where you go in just enough to make it stay but not too deep where it'll become ugly quickly.

but are you talking the actual bottom of your heel? where you constantly step?
or the side where there isnt that much wear and tear?

(and yes i do understand your point totally)

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Yeah, if you go through the dermis down to the hypodermis the ink just spreads out in the fat, it's no good.

I was thinking the back of my heel, the roundish part that's visible when I'm standing. The skin is still very very thick there, but it should be doable.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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