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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, April 21, 2008, 02:28:52 AM

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LMNO

Actually, that brings up an interesting point:

Durk, what do you know about Maybe Logic?

hunter s.durden

I got into a similar argument last night at the bar.

A guy was trying to refute my statement using his awesome philosophy powers.

The statement: What is, is.
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Quote from: LMNO on May 01, 2008, 06:26:35 PM
Rat said that magic is a psychological event, for him.

You seem to be saying that because of EW, magic causes inexplicable things to happen in the macro world.
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What's more, the EW model doesn't mean anything is possible.  It means that all possible things occur.  It does not say that the laws of physics can be broken.  It does not, for example, say that in some universe, my fingertips spontaneously begin spewing molten lava.  It does not mean you can violate the laws of thermodynamics.

It seems like Rat is suggesting it COULD be more, the same as I have.  For all intensive purposes, yes, psychological.    But there are other POSSIBLE interpretations, and there's no reason to have only one, because none of your interpretations will be the whole truth.

I think the second line there COULD be true.   I also think macro world is never really understood, only modeled.

And I have to correct you here... the EW model does suggest that anything physically possible occurs, but something your missing is that what's physically possible is relative to your reference point.  Or rather, that is an implication of the theory.  That what's physically possible in one universe (reference point), may not be possible in another, and vice versa.  

I can elaborate further, but don't have the time here.

LMNO

But we are existing in this universe.

You know, the one where an object is pulled towards the groung at 32 m/s/s

hunter s.durden

That's just for our planet.

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Quote from: LMNO on May 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM
But we are existing in this universe.

You know, the one where an object is pulled towards the groung at 32 m/s/s

Now, let me be clear that I don't subscribe to the EW interpretation as THE truth.  No way.  It's just another map.

It's a good point your making, and I think there's an interesting response for it.  I may not have time to go into it today though, got a crapload of stuff piled on me at work... I'll return with more.

Triple Zero

Quote from: LMNO on May 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM
But we are existing in this universe.

You know, the one where an object is pulled towards the groung at 32 m/s/s

9.8 m/s2, even.

i think it's 32 feet/s2?
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Quote from: hunter s.durden on May 01, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
I got into a similar argument last night at the bar.

A guy was trying to refute my statement using his awesome philosophy powers.

The statement: What is, is.

What was his refutation?
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hunter s.durden

I'm not sure. I refuted his refutation by not pay attention.

Something about how things can change.
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Quote from: hunter s.durden on May 02, 2008, 01:26:21 AM
I'm not sure. I refuted his refutation by not pay attention.

Something about how things can change.

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Quote from: triple zero on May 01, 2008, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM
But we are existing in this universe.

You know, the one where an object is pulled towards the groung at 32 m/s/s

9.8 m/s2, even.

i think it's 32 feet/s2?

Quite right, although its 9.81 m/s2
That 0.01 make one hell of a difference. Trust me on that one
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Quote from: hunter s.durden on May 02, 2008, 01:26:21 AM
I'm not sure. I refuted his refutation by not pay attention.

Something about how things can change.
I'm disappointed that a barstool was not involved.

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hunter s.durden

It wasn't quite a barstool situation.

Usually at the bar I use the barstool argument for football, not philosophy.
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Quote from: Micro-Ice on May 02, 2008, 01:33:23 AM
Quote from: triple zero on May 01, 2008, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM
But we are existing in this universe.

You know, the one where an object is pulled towards the groung at 32 m/s/s

9.8 m/s2, even.

i think it's 32 feet/s2?


Quite right, although its 9.81 m/s2
That 0.01 make one hell of a difference. Trust me on that one

It depends on your elevation.

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