How many protesters does it take to change a light bulb?

[Jenne]

This is abuse! I came here for an argument!
I'm going to stray off topic for a second. If I have an opinion that differs from yours, its only because I feel that way, not because I'm trying to offend you. So maybe a conversation is possible now? Not just mud-slinging like politicians?

Anywho, I agree that different methods yield results. The more active you are, the more effective it will be. I think public awareness is good, but it seems the reason the public is not aware of certain issues is because they don't care. Its probably really hard to present all the facts of an argument in certain situations, and most people don't want to read a pamphlet or flyer while they are out doing errands. What would be the best way to get a point accross and actually make people think about it?

Abuse?  Dude...you need to lurk moar then.

Also:  You're right, people don't want spam.  They get enough of that in their mailboxes and on the internet.  Thing is, you have to reach them somehow or fuck off, right?  So, which is it?  Make a bloody scream in the night to wake them up?  Or stay silent in your armchair fapping to the latest skinnyass anorexic on America's Top Model?

Either way, making ONE squeak may cause someone to sit up to take notice, which is one more person that didn't give a flying fuck before and may now.  That squeak, small though it may be, is worth more than a million fapping assholes who think they know the answer to everything but are too afraid of failure to even start.

You came here and attacked what I choose to do with my OFF time.  I don't get PAID to lobby.  I do this out of my own time for my kids and my kids' kids.  Sure as shit I'm going to take offense, especially if you don't have anything but your own goddammed opinion to back it up.  Bring in facts, bring in experiential data, bring in urban legend, I don't care.  But your OP sucked ass.  Sorry, but it's true.

Give something substantive to your query here, and then maybe you'll have this "argument" you were wanting (wtf?  I've been "arguing" from the get-go--if this isn't argument enough for you, I'd hate to see what you think all-out debate is).  Otherwise, why not come around with some questions rather than acting like you have all the answers without any of the scut work to account for.

[ShoobyDB]

1) The abuse/argument line is from Monty Python.
2) I did not call you out. I did not know what you do (I still don't). You chose to be offended.
3) I haven't seen any real facts in this entire thread, website, or internet. Good luck on that.
4) We've been going in circles far too long now. This is just something I do between smoke breaks.
5) I agree that making an effort is better than doing nothing, regardless of the amount of change. Anything worth having is worth working for.
6) I would never tell you that you are wrong. If what you do works for you, then it doesn't matter what me, or anybody, says bad about it. I understand I can be completely wrong, but what's the point in being right or wrong?

[P3nT4gR4m]

In hunting around, I found this quote:

From my observations of the media over the past 30 years, the only protest that appears to have had any effect on what politicians have already decided, is that of the Poll Tax demonstrations.

(which I hadn't heard of)

so as it turns out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_Tax_Riots
The Poll Tax was abandoned. So yes, the riot succeeded in it's goal.

But is a riot the same thing as a protest?


Anyway, there's one, and perhaps the only one, since 68. 

Almost - the poll tax was abandoned and replaced with teh "community charge"

The community charge was, essentially, the poll tax but with the name spelled differently

[Triple Zero]

This is abuse! I came here for an argument!

- triplezero
(did get the reference)

[ShoobyDB]

I must admit I am not old enough to have seen the original Flying Circus, but only know the joke from the DVD commercial.. 

[Jenne]

1) The abuse/argument line is from Monty Python.
2) I did not call you out. I did not know what you do (I still don't). You chose to be offended.
3) I haven't seen any real facts in this entire thread, website, or internet. Good luck on that.
4) We've been going in circles far too long now. This is just something I do between smoke breaks.
5) I agree that making an effort is better than doing nothing, regardless of the amount of change. Anything worth having is worth working for.
6) I would never tell you that you are wrong. If what you do works for you, then it doesn't matter what me, or anybody, says bad about it. I understand I can be completely wrong, but what's the point in being right or wrong?

1) whatever
2) I guess you don't read tripzip's posts except when they congratulate you on recycling old jokes.  well done.  He explained what I do quite well.
3) Again, you don't read real well.  My protesting's been documented as FACT on this site through links to camera footage.  but again, whatever.
4) congrats...what the fuck this has to do with tea in China is beyond me, as you keep restating the same thing and then protesting (ha!) when I respond (albeit negatively, but you asked for it with your first thread being an attack on something that you know nothing about)
5) well shit, THAT took you long enough, didn't it...6 pages?  you sure do take long smoke breaks
6) well jesus christ on a stick, man, why write the OP at all, then?

I can do this all day, btw.

[Payne]

I can do this all day, btw.

Jenne is honing and perfecting her hate. ON YUO!

[Jenne]

I can do this all day, btw.

Jenne is honing and perfecting her hate. ON YUO!

What can I say--dude sticks in my craw.

[Triple Zero]

1) D/N/T Monty Python
2) Monty Python NEVER gets old
3) no it doesn't
4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k
5) well he won't argue with you during working hours unless you pay him
6) he didn't
7) no you can't

[LMNO]

Also:


You cannot dig deep enough.

[P3nT4gR4m]

[Jenne]

Also:


You cannot dig deep enough.

Plllbbbt.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This is abuse!

No, it isn't.

When we start abusing you, you'll KNOW it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I can do this all day, btw.

Jenne is honing and perfecting her hate. ON YUO!

Some people pay GOOD MONEY for that sort of thing, you know.

He really should call her "Mistress Jenne", though, shouldn't he?

[Payne]

I can do this all day, btw.

Jenne is honing and perfecting her hate. ON YUO!

Some people pay GOOD MONEY for that sort of thing, you know.

He really should call her "Mistress Jenne", though, shouldn't he?

Thats what I'm told.

~~~Payne: Wouldn't know