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Started by Subtract Eight!, April 22, 2008, 08:59:57 AM

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i have a small idea

how much do you think non verbal, abstract training has to do with our conscience?
hypothetically do you think humans can be relentlessly tortured and brainwashed to be ruled by shapes on a dartboard? theoretically, pavels dog and that sort of stuff considered....

in our millions of years the one physical constant has been the stars, these little blips of perfect black and white contrast, the most abstract thing, always always constant, maybe they did rule us BUT it had no meaning maybe they affect us so not badly or measurably.

maybe this is religion,
maybe this is god but the realization that god IS unseeable and omnipresent and ultimately chaotic is ture with this

or i could be wrong about the stars (ya i dont see how i could be (proven) right (or wrong)) but this is something else and im just preaching to the choir

or i just thought this might be an interesting wordset to squeeze over the Discordian Forum Post Thought template

anyways you can
-talk about how much abssstract visual cues rule us
-or maybe go on with the stars shi
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Wow! You fags are still here? Maybe you should get off your ass and put some thought into something meaningful instead of a stupid kiddie message board. You're all pawns in the game of life, no matter how much you think about it. You're still retarded no matter how big your words are. You're still missing the point.

There is still time to accept Jesus Christ, he is the only one that can fill the enormous void in your life. He is the definite answer you've been wasting your life looking for.  He will save your soul and ease your mind.  I too am a mere, flawed mortal. I can only hope others would try to reach me in times of need. This might be your last chance to save your eternity.


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AFK

In a way, I think the Stars have always had some kind of rule or power over us.  Certainly not always overt nor in a straightforward way.  However, the Stars, space seems to have constantly represented the "out there" concept.  That is, it is a place that is beyond us that we want to see, to understand.  And I think as we more and more understand the rock we are on, the stars become more powerful and the reasons will multiply.  Not just that we want to understand them, but for some, we will want to conquer them, to reach them, to set up shop on them, to strip-maul them, etc., etc., 

I read once that there was a civilization somewhere long ago, I forget where, that believed the stars were actually like little chandeliers hanging from the sky.  It seems kind of silly now, but I imagine at the time, it was a kind of romantic thought. 
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hunter s.durden

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on April 22, 2008, 06:26:42 PM
In a way, I think the Stars have always had some kind of rule or power over us.   

Gravity being the biggie.
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I lost interest in stars when I found out they weren't actually star-shaped. :argh!:

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Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 06:30:03 PM
I lost interest in stars when I found out they weren't actually star-shaped. :argh!:

I got interested in stars when I found out they weren't star shaped, but were in fact massive balls of fire that burn for billions of years.

God is a fucking pyromaniac.

Jenne

Wait, they aren't?

Really, though, I guess the question in the OP (if I understand it right) is that the stars once had a great influence over us, and this is significant because no one told us so?  And this may still be the case?

P3nT4gR4m

The fundamental premise of astrology - that te stars influence us (in some way) is feasible IMO, however the chances of anyone making that shit predictable seems mighty slim so it's either totally random or it's totally governed but in such a way as to be incomprehensible.

From my point of view both these possibilities lead to the exact same place

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walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Triple Zero

for instance, on some people stars influence them write horoscopes.
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Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
The fundamental premise of astrology - that te stars influence us (in some way) is feasible IMO, however the chances of anyone making that shit predictable seems mighty slim so it's either totally random or it's totally governed but in such a way as to be incomprehensible.

From my point of view both these possibilities lead to the exact same place

Aye Troof.

The only value I've ever personally found in astrology was as a self reflection tool... much like tarot without the nice easy to use archetypes.
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hunter s.durden

Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
The fundamental premise of astrology - that te stars influence us (in some way) is feasible IMO, however the chances of anyone making that shit predictable seems mighty slim so it's either totally random or it's totally governed but in such a way as to be incomprehensible.

From my point of view both these possibilities lead to the exact same place

No astrology for me thanks.

The influence the stars exert on me are pretty much simply this: When the big one goes down, and the little ones appear, I'm more likely to commit crimes.
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Quote from: hunter s.durden on April 22, 2008, 07:06:07 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 22, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
The fundamental premise of astrology - that te stars influence us (in some way) is feasible IMO, however the chances of anyone making that shit predictable seems mighty slim so it's either totally random or it's totally governed but in such a way as to be incomprehensible.

From my point of view both these possibilities lead to the exact same place

No astrology for me thanks.

The influence the stars exert on me are pretty much simply this: When the big one goes down, and the little ones appear, I'm more likely to commit crimes.

You are my favorite mortal enemy in the whole wide universe :mittens:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

BootyBay

Alpha Centauri (the nearest stars to Earth.. there are three of them: one roughly the size of the sun and two considerably smaller ones) acts on a 150 pound person with 2.37*10^-11 Newtons of gravitational force.  I don't see how this would affect us in any significant way.
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Quote from: BootyBay on April 22, 2008, 07:55:49 PM
Alpha Centauri (the nearest stars to Earth.. there are three of them: one roughly the size of the sun and two considerably smaller ones) acts on a 150 pound person with 2.37*10^-11 Newtons of gravitational force.  I don't see how this would affect us in any significant way.

Well, I think that the OP was asking if their visible existence in the sky might have affected humans in some psychological manner, not a physical manner based on gravitational pull.
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