Yet Another Thursday !

[Cainad (dec.)]

I like it, but why do you put spaces in front of all your exclamation points?

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

The way the piece is set up is a completely randomized process where everyone has an equal chance of becoming King.

Whether or not this is even a good idea isn't really my point at this time.

In a completely randomized process, the Hope is justified, because they have an equal shot of King-ness as everyone else.

However, in a rigged system the Hope is completly bogus, and is used as a tool for the rigger to stay in power.  The masses don't question the results, because they think it's completely random, and that they will someday have King-ness.

But they won't.  The game is rigged, and they will always be exploited.


It feels weird I have to explain that.

The OP in interesting, but the above would take to the next level yanno?  I like it though.

[Payne]

What are you talking about?




Look, if you don't want constructive criticism, I'll just give you mittens and not comment, ok?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I really like it as it stands, because I was viewing it as a metaphor for the futility of our hamster-wheel society, not as a metaphor for politics.

However, I think that if it inspires someone to write a similar piece with a different gist, so much the better, especially if you write it instead of complain about it not having been written.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I really like it as it stands, because I was viewing it as a metaphor for the futility of our hamster-wheel society, not as a metaphor for politics.

However, I think that if it inspires someone to write a similar piece with a different gist, so much the better, especially if you write it instead of complain about it not having been written.

This is the correct Motorcycle... much like the multitude of BiP and Barstool interpretations.

[Adios]

The way the piece is set up is a completely randomized process where everyone has an equal chance of becoming King.

Whether or not this is even a good idea isn't really my point at this time.

In a completely randomized process, the Hope is justified, because they have an equal shot of King-ness as everyone else.

However, in a rigged system the Hope is completly bogus, and is used as a tool for the rigger to stay in power.  The masses don't question the results, because they think it's completely random, and that they will someday have King-ness.

But they won't.  The game is rigged, and they will always be exploited.


It feels weird I have to explain that.

I think you bring an important point. Hope is used by the system as a drug of content. I HOPE, therefore I don't have to scream. In this case Hope is nothing more than a meme used as an opiate. I prefer not to hope because that would deny my intelligence. I know nothing will change and I'm not going to shit my diapers when it doesn't. This also brings the implication that the kings are made, which they are. Does anyone actually believe anyone that doesn't have the Official Stamp of Approval™ of the Kingmakers will ever be allowed to wear the Hallowed Crown? I shit my reality all over your hope.

[Reginald Ret]

The way the piece is set up is a completely randomized process where everyone has an equal chance of becoming King.

Whether or not this is even a good idea isn't really my point at this time.

In a completely randomized process, the Hope is justified, because they have an equal shot of King-ness as everyone else.

However, in a rigged system the Hope is completly bogus, and is used as a tool for the rigger to stay in power.  The masses don't question the results, because they think it's completely random, and that they will someday have King-ness.

But they won't.  The game is rigged, and they will always be exploited.


It feels weird I have to explain that.

The Hope for Power is justified but the Hope for Salvation(the hope of improving the world) is bogus whenever you hope for others to do it.
at least thats what i got out of it.

[wade]

It feels weird I have to explain that.

You don't have to explain anything :P but you did anyways...

Look, if you don't want constructive criticism, I'll just give you mittens and not comment, ok?

This piece of literature, "Yet another Thursday" is art... right.

The best thing about art is watching the reactions to it.   It appears to me that you're getting pretty worked up over this, and thus contributing to the experience.    I'm curious to know what you expected form him?   

meh...  my point is, calm the fuck down and stop getting offended over the fact that the guy never responded to you the way you expected him to...   or not...  WHATEVER.

[Jesrad]

And thus there was some Enlightenment

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

And thus there was some Enlightenment

With every parable there appears to be some enlightenment in some sense

[Pieces]

The way the piece is set up is a completely randomized process where everyone has an equal chance of becoming King.

Whether or not this is even a good idea isn't really my point at this time.

In a completely randomized process, the Hope is justified, because they have an equal shot of King-ness as everyone else.

However, in a rigged system the Hope is completly bogus, and is used as a tool for the rigger to stay in power.  The masses don't question the results, because they think it's completely random, and that they will someday have King-ness.

But they won't.  The game is rigged, and they will always be exploited.


It feels weird I have to explain that.

OP, I liked your story.

As far as the argument of the 'piece' being set-up to be completely random, I'd like to disagree. There's no way that this system would be either completely random or completely rigged. 
In the case of it being completely random, that's almost impossible, because SOMEONE has to draw names out of the hat. Maybe they got a quick peek inside and were able to make out the names. Maybe when the little name cards were being made they were made a different size or even a different shape. Who knows? Would the SAME person draw out the cards every time? And damnit, who does the hat belong to?

And on the flip side, on the appointment of the King of Thursday being rigged, well, that's almost impossible too. You can never have COMPLETE control of a system, just like you can never make something completely water-proof. Especially in terms of human relations, like voting or drawing names out of a hat, because there are way too many people like us, the kind of people who make up fake names to put in the hat, the kind of people to tell the King of Thursday to go fuck a fire hydrant, the kind of people who decide to straight up shit inside this Kingly headgear.

All I'm saying is that the 'system' is always going to be a little random, and it's going to be a little rigged. You might not have a very big piece of paper and you may not know the person pulling names outta the hat. But even if your chance is way smaller than others, you still have a chance. Hope is only bogus if Hope is all you have. You always need a little push to make Hope happen.

It's very grey here today.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The way the piece is set up is a completely randomized process where everyone has an equal chance of becoming King.

Whether or not this is even a good idea isn't really my point at this time.

In a completely randomized process, the Hope is justified, because they have an equal shot of King-ness as everyone else.

However, in a rigged system the Hope is completly bogus, and is used as a tool for the rigger to stay in power.  The masses don't question the results, because they think it's completely random, and that they will someday have King-ness.

But they won't.  The game is rigged, and they will always be exploited.


It feels weird I have to explain that.

OP, I liked your story.

As far as the argument of the 'piece' being set-up to be completely random, I'd like to disagree. There's no way that this system would be either completely random or completely rigged. 
In the case of it being completely random, that's almost impossible, because SOMEONE has to draw names out of the hat. Maybe they got a quick peek inside and were able to make out the names. Maybe when the little name cards were being made they were made a different size or even a different shape. Who knows? Would the SAME person draw out the cards every time? And damnit, who does the hat belong to?

And on the flip side, on the appointment of the King of Thursday being rigged, well, that's almost impossible too. You can never have COMPLETE control of a system, just like you can never make something completely water-proof. Especially in terms of human relations, like voting or drawing names out of a hat, because there are way too many people like us, the kind of people who make up fake names to put in the hat, the kind of people to tell the King of Thursday to go fuck a fire hydrant, the kind of people who decide to straight up shit inside this Kingly headgear.

All I'm saying is that the 'system' is always going to be a little random, and it's going to be a little rigged. You might not have a very big piece of paper and you may not know the person pulling names outta the hat. But even if your chance is way smaller than others, you still have a chance. Hope is only bogus if Hope is all you have. You always need a little push to make Hope happen.

It's very grey here today.

It may be rigged or not rigged... but the people seem to be falling for two major CoN's.

A) If they were King things would be better
and
B) A King is necessary for their Hope to be realized.

It's like Mr. Obama, sure he has the audacity of hope, he's inspiring people all over the country to say Yes We Can. However, the people have ALWAYS had the power to bring about change, maybe not stop the War or give everyone Universal Healthcare, but YES THEY COULD HAVE done a lot of stuff to improve the world around them without the government, without a charismatic leader and without 'HOPE'.

People don't need someone to give them hope... they need to get off their asses and DO something. here is a car in my neighborhood that is plastered with liberal bumper stickers, a number of which scream about the Environment and Global Warming and how much of an asshole Bush is. The other conspicuous aspect of this vehicle is the black smoke of burning oil which has poured from its exhaust ever since I've seen the car around. They may have hope for the Obamanation.... but they could, instead (or along with) go get the seals replaced on their vehicle. People like that remind me of the Thursdayists. They have hope that SOMEONE will be in charge to fix the problems, so they focus on elections and politics and yelling about this bastard and that bastard and meanwhile they're driving a gas guzzler that burns oil.

The same seems true of many programs that everyone HOPES their candidate will bring to the government. Some Conservatives think that charities and private groups should be caring for the needy, rather than the government caring for them... but, they're not out there DOING it. They just say it and HOPE the next King will wave a magic wand and make it true. I am reminded of the situation in NOLA when the hurricane hit. The people had HOPE that their local, State and Federal governments would take care of them... so most of them didn't bother to take care of themselves. They were carrying televisions, and belongings into the Superdome, but not water or food. It was public knowledge that the Levees might not withstand a Cat 5 hurricane, but most of these people weren't even prepared with a couple jugs of water, just in case they might need it.

Hope, often seems to me like Faith. Its a way for some to fool their brain into thinking that they're DOING something (like cheering on a Obama rally) without actually DOING anything (like getting their car fixed).

[Pieces]

It may be rigged or not rigged... but the people seem to be falling for two major CoN's.

A) If they were King things would be better
and
B) A King is necessary for their Hope to be realized.

It's like Mr. Obama, sure he has the audacity of hope, he's inspiring people all over the country to say Yes We Can. However, the people have ALWAYS had the power to bring about change, maybe not stop the War or give everyone Universal Healthcare, but YES THEY COULD HAVE done a lot of stuff to improve the world around them without the government, without a charismatic leader and without 'HOPE'.

People don't need someone to give them hope... they need to get off their asses and DO something. here is a car in my neighborhood that is plastered with liberal bumper stickers, a number of which scream about the Environment and Global Warming and how much of an asshole Bush is. The other conspicuous aspect of this vehicle is the black smoke of burning oil which has poured from its exhaust ever since I've seen the car around. They may have hope for the Obamanation.... but they could, instead (or along with) go get the seals replaced on their vehicle. People like that remind me of the Thursdayists. They have hope that SOMEONE will be in charge to fix the problems, so they focus on elections and politics and yelling about this bastard and that bastard and meanwhile they're driving a gas guzzler that burns oil.

The same seems true of many programs that everyone HOPES their candidate will bring to the government. Some Conservatives think that charities and private groups should be caring for the needy, rather than the government caring for them... but, they're not out there DOING it. They just say it and HOPE the next King will wave a magic wand and make it true. I am reminded of the situation in NOLA when the hurricane hit. The people had HOPE that their local, State and Federal governments would take care of them... so most of them didn't bother to take care of themselves. They were carrying televisions, and belongings into the Superdome, but not water or food. It was public knowledge that the Levees might not withstand a Cat 5 hurricane, but most of these people weren't even prepared with a couple jugs of water, just in case they might need it.

Hope, often seems to me like Faith. Its a way for some to fool their brain into thinking that they're DOING something (like cheering on a Obama rally) without actually DOING anything (like getting their car fixed).

You're right, I can't really argue with that. I'd love to tell you that people are willing to do some WORK to make HOPE happen, but that isn't how it works at all. In reality, like you said, people want a magic King to bring his wand and make all the bad go away.

But, there's no magic wand. And I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of disappointed people if Obama wins...

"Alright people, I'm now the president! Let's get to work and make this country a better place for everyone!!!"

"....Pardon me? Isn't that YOUR job? I'M trying to make enough money to buy myself the luxury of severely reducing my contact with other human beings. Or at least that's what I'm HOPING for. Go Powerball!!!"

[LMNO]

Fuck, man... get your quote-fu right.

For a second there, I thought, "what the hell happened to my writing style, and why the hell would I say that?"

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Fuck, man... get your quote-fu right.

For a second there, I thought, "what the hell happened to my writing style, and why the hell would I say that?"

... I think...