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Started by Dr Goofy, September 05, 2008, 06:15:01 AM

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Payne

 :argh!:

Don't listen to them! Keep digging! You're almost there!

Lupernikes_shadowbark

I'm lost now....almost where?

I think I've ended up somewhere else now instead...look at the pretty flowers....

Payne

Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 05, 2008, 03:51:04 PM
I'm lost now....almost where?

I think I've ended up somewhere else now instead...look at the pretty flowers....

So you were just digging, and didn't have a clue what you were actually talking about?

PAH! I had hope for you, too.

~~~Payne: Disillusioned.

Lupernikes_shadowbark

sorry it's a friday lol...so we're being devolved (tm)(c) patent pending etc back to our simian forebears is where I was going, encourage the chav masses to outbreed us and thus, make society easier to control?

LMNO


Lupernikes_shadowbark

#20
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oh and stick it up your big hairy arse you bloody monkey! :evilmad:

Payne


Elder Iptuous


Kai

Quote from: LMNO on September 05, 2008, 02:23:13 PM
Y'know, just stop using the word "Darwin," unless you're talking about a guy that lived about 100 years ago.

TITCM.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEVOLVE UNLESS YOU CAN MAKE TIME GO BACKWARD.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

We can evolve into something stupider, though.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Nigel on September 05, 2008, 10:57:15 PM
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEVOLVE UNLESS YOU CAN MAKE TIME GO BACKWARD.

Ok, well.  If a species, due to some environmental factor adapts with some feature, and then the environmental factor goes away, and the feature goes away too, then it would be convenient to have a label indicating that it evolved into a form that it previously had, right?  Why is Devolution a bad word to describe this?
....it's the band, isn't it?....
they fvcked it up for the whole log, didn't they?

(disclaimer: ianaeb)

Lupernikes_shadowbark

Quote from: Nigel on September 05, 2008, 10:57:15 PM
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEVOLVE UNLESS YOU CAN MAKE TIME GO BACKWARD.

yes there is, I just made it up and can claim all the royalties when scientists start using it ;)

ok I was being facetious but only for giggles

Dr Goofy

answer de-evolving... is that your finally answer?


According to the Mayans we are in the time of evolving!

Kai

Quote from: Iptuous on September 05, 2008, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 05, 2008, 10:57:15 PM
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEVOLVE UNLESS YOU CAN MAKE TIME GO BACKWARD.

Ok, well.  If a species, due to some environmental factor adapts with some feature, and then the environmental factor goes away, and the feature goes away too, then it would be convenient to have a label indicating that it evolved into a form that it previously had, right?  Why is Devolution a bad word to describe this?
....it's the band, isn't it?....
they fvcked it up for the whole log, didn't they?
(disclaimer: ianaeb)

Whereas,

the original name for the whole process was called Descent with Modification, and

whereas, since Evolution (L. unrolling) was coined by Henry Spencer who did not understand that Natural Selection did not mean progress,

and whereas, since we understand Evolution takes the place of Descent with Modification, but under the original definition that Descent with Modification works under, and not the unrolling progress of Henry Spencer's evolution,

Therefore, Evolution means the modification of lineages over time, and should have no connotation of progress,

and furthermore, cannot be modified to "de-evolution" under this definition.


Its a horrible buzzword for people who don't understand the process, and nothing more.


Example of a lineage where more basal (ancestral) forms have returned: the wingless condition in the Phasmodea (walking sticks). The winged condition has been lost in several families of that order of insects, due to an interesting gene sequence. The correct term for this would be "return to more ancestral body plan". A biologist would never use the term "de-evolved".
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish