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Do you believe in a soul?

Started by The Dark Monk, November 07, 2008, 01:51:39 AM

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LMNO

So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

Cramulus

I hear what you're saying, Iptuous. My definition is probably not compatible with lots of other definitions of the soul - god's breath, the part of you that goes to the afterlife, consciousness, etc etc. As odd as it sounds, I am not too interested in "truths" about the soul. I should say that I selected my idea specifically because I want to arrange my life in a way which emphasizes kinetic energy. Motion, direction, new ideas, doing things, having experiences.

My introverted tendencies occasionally make me antisocial, comfortable with isolation. But the times when I'm doing things, making new stories, spreading novelty, ENGAGING the universe rather than commenting on it or holding it at arms length -- those are the times that I really feel like I'm alive. So if I say that somebody who doesn't DO anything doesn't really have a soul, understand that it is an attitude built for personal utility.


I appreciate the chance to discuss this btw, it's been itching me for a while and I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on it.

Phox

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:50:37 PM

Yes, but I equate light to "consciousness".  Sometimes.  

Ontologically or physically? I guess it doesn't matter since you say you flip-flop.
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: Phox on October 08, 2010, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM



I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.
Then why bring it up at all?

Because this thread is about belief.

But you said you don't believe it. And this thread is about belief in the soul, specifically. which has nothing to do with what you quoted, or rather it is a side discussion from a Buddhist perspective on souls. It is still irrelevant to what you personally believe about souls, though.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

My mother's best friend is this Cherohonkey that once said "Angels are so passe".

:lulz:
Molon Lube

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Phox on October 08, 2010, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:50:37 PM

Yes, but I equate light to "consciousness".  Sometimes.  

Ontologically or physically? I guess it doesn't matter since you say you flip-flop.
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: Phox on October 08, 2010, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 08:38:56 PM



I am not passing value judgments on the validity or relevancy of your views or the views of scientists at large.  I am also not a Buddhist to my awareness.  My girlfriend is on days she feels like it.
Then why bring it up at all?

Because this thread is about belief.

But you said you don't believe it. And this thread is about belief in the soul, specifically. which has nothing to do with what you quoted, or rather it is a side discussion from a Buddhist perspective on souls. It is still irrelevant to what you personally believe about souls, though.


No he believes it sometimes, even though he's not a Buddhist in his awareness, even though his equally indecisive girlfriend is when she feels like it.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Phox

Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

I'm going to guess that he does. Sometimes. When he feels like it.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2010, 08:58:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

My mother's best friend is this Cherohonkey that once said "Angels are so passe".

:lulz:

:facepalm:
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

LMNO

Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:59:02 PM
No he believes it sometimes, even though he's not a Buddhist in his awareness, even though his equally indecisive girlfriend is when she feels like it.

Let's not forget about the interphasing quanta.

Psychonomaly

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Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

I am Indopagan.  I believe in Hindu theology which is as cohesive as you want it to be.  Sometimes I make things up and believe them.  Or at least I think I'm making them up.  I can only believe what makes sense to me.  If something else is presented that contradicts what I believe and makes more sense, then I might amend my beliefs.  Or if something doesn't make sense to me, and I claim to believe it, then I'm lying.  Sometimes I do that too.

Don Coyote

Ok where is my stabbing knife?

LMNO


Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

I am Indopagan.  I believe in Hindu theology which is as cohesive as you want it to be.  Sometimes I make things up and believe them.  Or at least I think I'm making them up.  I can only believe what makes sense to me.  If something else is presented that contradicts what I believe and makes more sense, then I might amend my beliefs.  Or if something doesn't make sense to me, and I claim to believe it, then I'm lying.  Sometimes I do that too.

So, you're a Honkindu...

No, I'm going to leave this alone for the moment.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Psychonomaly

Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 09:00:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:59:02 PM
No he believes it sometimes, even though he's not a Buddhist in his awareness, even though his equally indecisive girlfriend is when she feels like it.

Let's not forget about the interphasing quanta.

I was quoting Ronald Pearson.  There are the quanta that quantum physicists study and the quanta that interphases with them evidently.

Phox

Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 08, 2010, 08:59:02 PM
No he believes it sometimes, even though he's not a Buddhist in his awareness, even though his equally indecisive girlfriend is when she feels like it.

Oh, of course. That makes sense. I can't think to clearly with Yin and Yang vibrating so hard in my orifices.

Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 08, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
So, do you have a cohesive theology, or do you just make up whatever new-age bullshit springs to mind as you go?

I am
Quote from: http://pagan.wikia.com/wiki/IndoPaganismIndopagan
.  I believe in Hindu theology which is as cohesive as you want it to be.
Wrong in two obvious ways, and in many not so obvious ways.
Quote from: Psychonomaly on October 08, 2010, 09:00:56 PM
Sometimes I make things up and believe them.  Or at least I think I'm making them up.  I can only believe what makes sense to me.  If something else is presented that contradicts what I believe and makes more sense, then I might amend my beliefs.  Or if something doesn't make sense to me, and I claim to believe it, then I'm lying.  Sometimes I do that too.
:retard:

Faust

Light is composeof photons, matter may well emit photons but there is hell of a lot of other suff involved, matter is not composed of photons.


But more direct and to the point, you really should have stopped while you were ahead.


I think that "misusing and misunderstanding of quantum mechanics as use in an argument for some impossible phenomena" should be explicitly outlined in the intro thread as penalised by a shit kicking.

Ideally I'd like schrodingers festering corpse to gradually become animated as a zombie the longer the "debate" goes on, before ultimately strangling the offender, but sadly certain things are beyond our means.
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