This thread is now about Furries, for some reason. Formerly: "So. Anonymous."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Woman screaming "get off me you swine!"

Animal? You seriously trying to tell me, as a biologist, that you wouldn't be able to tell if an animal was in distress?

Date rape and coercive rape are probably more common than violent rape... the woman doesn't scream or struggle, often because she's in a weird, fucked position (or really drunk/drugged/conditioned) and doesn't know what to do. 

Children usually "consent" to being molested, because their molester is someone they love and trust... and also because, like animals, children have sexual feelings, which should not be exploited by adults.

From what I've read on the bestiality newsgroup, when human men penetrate animals, it's a similar situation of abuse of trust and/or power. This is, of course, only relevant if you're going to discuss the animal cruelty/ethical aspect of bestiality.

I honestly doubt that it's any more cruel to induce a dog or other animal to mount a human than it is cruel to masturbate a female cat in heat with a q-tip... but I think both are pretty fucking strange. Also, training dogs to mount humans presents other issues, such as dogs being conditioned to try to mount people who are crouched down or on all fours, including children (don't laugh, a neighborhood dog tried to mount me rather determinedly when I was 4 or 5, and it was really scary).

[OPTIMUS PINECONE]

Human sex, as I postulated earlier, is predominantly driven by the "euphoria incentive" - it feels nice at the time and then the orgasmic endorphin release is the icing on the cake.

Thing is the incentive is not only rewarded by sticking your dick in a woman. Sticking your dick in a man, warm apple pie or equivalent inter-species orifice will yield pretty much the same results.

Given that this is the case, each male will find his own personal preference of chosen orifice, in much the same way as we'd gravitate to a particular favourite food or music.

Some people like to eat really weird shit, some people like listening to really weird music and some people like fucking farm animals.

If no one or no thing is harmed or upset during this process I ask you again - what exactly is so empirically wrong about bestiality, beyond your own kneejerk reaction? It feels nice to pet a dog with your hand, I'm pretty sure if you got over the psychological aversion it'd feel nice to slip it one too.

Surely it couldn't be worse than fucking your own hand and I'll bet most of us have done that at one time or another.

The question is, where do you draw the line?

     Isn't it wholly dependent on whether anyone finds out?

[Kai]

Human sex, as I postulated earlier, is predominantly driven by the "euphoria incentive" - it feels nice at the time and then the orgasmic endorphin release is the icing on the cake.

Thing is the incentive is not only rewarded by sticking your dick in a woman. Sticking your dick in a man, warm apple pie or equivalent inter-species orifice will yield pretty much the same results.

Given that this is the case, each male will find his own personal preference of chosen orifice, in much the same way as we'd gravitate to a particular favourite food or music.

Some people like to eat really weird shit, some people like listening to really weird music and some people like fucking farm animals.

If no one or no thing is harmed or upset during this process I ask you again - what exactly is so empirically wrong about bestiality, beyond your own kneejerk reaction? It feels nice to pet a dog with your hand, I'm pretty sure if you got over the psychological aversion it'd feel nice to slip it one too.

Surely it couldn't be worse than fucking your own hand and I'll bet most of us have done that at one time or another.

The question is, where do you draw the line?

     Isn't it wholly dependent on whether anyone finds out?

I can't play any more part in this conversation. It makes me feel sick.

Please don't ask me any more questions.

[Faust]

If I may intrude?

The reason beastiality is wrong is fuck ewe, thats why.

Cain,
master of subtle debate.

[OPTIMUS PINECONE]

     ewe, that's gross

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Human sex, as I postulated earlier, is predominantly driven by the "euphoria incentive" - it feels nice at the time and then the orgasmic endorphin release is the icing on the cake.

Thing is the incentive is not only rewarded by sticking your dick in a woman. Sticking your dick in a man, warm apple pie or equivalent inter-species orifice will yield pretty much the same results.

Given that this is the case, each male will find his own personal preference of chosen orifice, in much the same way as we'd gravitate to a particular favourite food or music.

Some people like to eat really weird shit, some people like listening to really weird music and some people like fucking farm animals.

If no one or no thing is harmed or upset during this process I ask you again - what exactly is so empirically wrong about bestiality, beyond your own kneejerk reaction? It feels nice to pet a dog with your hand, I'm pretty sure if you got over the psychological aversion it'd feel nice to slip it one too.

Surely it couldn't be worse than fucking your own hand and I'll bet most of us have done that at one time or another.

The question is, where do you draw the line?

Isn't it wholly dependent on whether anyone finds out?

[Cainad (dec.)]

If I may intrude?

The reason beastiality is wrong is fuck you, thats why.

Cain,
master of subtle debate.

Moral reasoning over.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Definitely the most well grounded counter argument I've heard so far 

[Elder Iptuous]

essentially, Cain is correct.
and i support that position.

[Cain]

[hashNslack]

        Wish these PD spags would             Yeah- we don't make fun of their
        just STFU and leave us alone                  hand and dildo fetishes
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[Elder Iptuous]

wtf is that riding the black sow?!
is it a meatball with a lemon for a head?

[hooplala]

Animals are animals.  Humans are animals.

A chimp will fuck an orangutan if it gets the chance.

Don't fuck an "animal" if you don't want to, but your intellectual excuses for not doing so are simply that: intellectual excuses.

[Reginald Ret]

bonobo's are even worse.

[Faust]

Animals are animals.  Humans are animals.

A chimp will fuck an orangutan if it gets the chance.

Don't fuck an "animal" if you don't want to, but your intellectual excuses for not doing so are simply that: intellectual excuses.

every action or decision you make in your life is an intellectual excuse, doesn't make anything more right or wrong. so thats not really  the argument here.