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Started by Cramulus, November 14, 2008, 04:09:03 PM

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Who Wins?

Demi-Lich
21 (67.7%)
Tarrasque
10 (32.3%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Cramulus on November 14, 2008, 07:44:34 PM
and I think you're right about illusions being the way to slay the thing. The Tarrasque's will save is only +20. But remember, you've gotta neg ten it AND wish it dead in the same round, or it's gonna get back up in six seconds.

If I were the demilich, here's how I would do it:

*Go invisible. Fly above big T's head.
*If fighting in close quarters, allow yourself to be swallowed whole - being in the tarrasque's stomach is safer than facing its full attack, and the lich can stillcast while grappled anyway.
*Use a quickened phantasmal-killer spell - you have to be quick, because you need the standard action to cast wish and finish the thing.

The Tarrasque gets three rolls to resist the PK: spell resist, will save, fortitude save. If he fails all three, he will die of fear (but still be regenerating) and the lich will wish him dead.

If the lich can't get off the wish spell, he'll have to find a way to do 40 damage AND cast a wish in the same round. Which I think might be impossible given the tarrasque's immunities to rays, cones, fire, poison, disease, energy drain, etc etc etc

Its immunity is supposedly granted by its carapace, though. Would that apply from inside the Tarrasque?

Dr Goofy

Quote from: Sister_Gothique on November 14, 2008, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: AMonkey on November 14, 2008, 04:32:29 PM
You're all wrong, the DM's girlfriend wins.
Heh, depends on the DM; sometimes she's free game.

I am a fair DM so if there was a she she would be fair game.

Sister_Gothique

Quote from: Dean Corso on November 14, 2008, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: Sister_Gothique on November 14, 2008, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: AMonkey on November 14, 2008, 04:32:29 PM
You're all wrong, the DM's girlfriend wins.
Heh, depends on the DM; sometimes she's free game.

I am a fair DM so if there was a she she would be fair game.
Yay *hugs* ....I had to MAKE my ex treat me fair....I was happily willing to start the campaign with my sword and no armour (dice game me SHIT for gold)
I'm the new "God's Will"...Soon it'll be, "Oh, I can't be held accountable for THAT, Sister Gothique made me do it!"

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"Toolbox" is not adequate, this thread requires a whole new order of nomenclature :argh!:

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Cramulus

Quote from: Barack Obama on November 14, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
Its immunity is supposedly granted by its carapace, though. Would that apply from inside the Tarrasque?

oooh good call

the lich is pretty much immune to the acid (acid resist 20)
and the crushing will only do about 16 damage per round

so the lich is better positioned in tarrasque's stomach than he is invisible and flying.  :lulz:



Quote from: Silly_Cybin on November 14, 2008, 08:18:33 PM
"Toolbox" is not adequate, this thread requires a whole new order of nomenclature :argh!:

"Dire Toolbox"

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Cramulus on November 14, 2008, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: Barack Obama on November 14, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
Its immunity is supposedly granted by its carapace, though. Would that apply from inside the Tarrasque?

oooh good call

the lich is pretty much immune to the acid (acid resist 20)
and the crushing will only do about 16 damage per round

so the lich is better positioned in tarrasque's stomach than he is invisible and flying.  :lulz:


Now I remember why I loved the game so much. :lol:

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Quote from: Silly_Cybin on November 14, 2008, 08:18:33 PM
"Toolbox" is not adequate, this thread requires a whole new order of nomenclature :argh!:

"Dire Toolbox"

+5

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Barack Obama on November 14, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 14, 2008, 07:44:34 PM
and I think you're right about illusions being the way to slay the thing. The Tarrasque's will save is only +20. But remember, you've gotta neg ten it AND wish it dead in the same round, or it's gonna get back up in six seconds.

If I were the demilich, here's how I would do it:

*Go invisible. Fly above big T's head.
*If fighting in close quarters, allow yourself to be swallowed whole - being in the tarrasque's stomach is safer than facing its full attack, and the lich can stillcast while grappled anyway.
*Use a quickened phantasmal-killer spell - you have to be quick, because you need the standard action to cast wish and finish the thing.

The Tarrasque gets three rolls to resist the PK: spell resist, will save, fortitude save. If he fails all three, he will die of fear (but still be regenerating) and the lich will wish him dead.

If the lich can't get off the wish spell, he'll have to find a way to do 40 damage AND cast a wish in the same round. Which I think might be impossible given the tarrasque's immunities to rays, cones, fire, poison, disease, energy drain, etc etc etc

Its immunity is supposedly granted by its carapace, though. Would that apply from inside the Tarrasque?

Killing a Tarrasque from inside is the correct motorcycle.
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Cainad (dec.)

This thread will be saved and archived for the Anti-Tarrasque Policy Agency to examine once I move into office.

Be proud, PD.com: you've helped make America safer.

Cramulus

#23
what the FUCK would we do if the tarrasque attacked the USA?




ETA: or a demilich for that matter.
I think a demilich would be WAY more dangerous in the long run.

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Cramulus on November 14, 2008, 08:58:39 PM
what the FUCK would we do if the tarrasque attacked the USA?

Leave it to me.

We'll diplomatize the shit out of that leathery bastard.

P3nT4gR4m

I'll make sure it's not allowed to appear before 9 pm watershed and is only displayed above the waist

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Mary Whitehouse on November 14, 2008, 09:02:02 PM
I'll make sure it's not allowed to appear before 9 pm watershed and is only displayed above the waist

You're right; the Tarrasque doesn't wear pants, does it?

Boy, am I glad I appointed you to office!

Vene

Quote from: Cramulus on November 14, 2008, 08:58:39 PM
what the FUCK would we do if the tarrasque attacked the USA?




ETA: or a demilich for that matter.
I think a demilich would be WAY more dangerous in the long run.
How much damage does a nuclear warhead do?

P3nT4gR4m

Put it this way - if you pulled the pin on one, you wouldn't have to worry about the lich anymore  :lulz:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Triple Zero

Quote from: Vene on November 14, 2008, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 14, 2008, 08:58:39 PM
what the FUCK would we do if the tarrasque attacked the USA?




ETA: or a demilich for that matter.
I think a demilich would be WAY more dangerous in the long run.
How much damage does a nuclear warhead do?

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