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Started by Cramulus, November 14, 2008, 04:09:03 PM

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Who Wins?

Demi-Lich
21 (67.7%)
Tarrasque
10 (32.3%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

#135
Quote from: derpsichord on August 31, 2009, 04:29:51 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_17455_15-retarded-dungeons-dragons-monsters.html
What is it?

The Demi-lich is a soul-eating floating skull that bides its time on a galleon full of treasure waiting for the Goonies to show up.

Where it Went Wrong:

Besides looking like a Pirates of the Caribbean alarm clock, the Demi-lich seems to possess no tactical advantages of any kind. It just kind of floats around, waiting for a party of heroes to smack it out of the air like a pinata.

We suppose it could try to bite you, but the illustration above kind of makes it look like the jaw is fused in place. Man, now we just feel sorry for it. :lol:


Sure, but you've got to weigh that against the mythological tale of futility and uncanny misfortune from which the Tarrasque originally is originally derived...

Apparently, the mythological Tarrasque was a dragon or some such creature which was terrorizing the French counterside. It tore apart every army that was sent to stop it. However, Saint Martha convinced the beast to convert to Christianity and become a pacifist. Unfortunately for the tarrasque, however, it chose exactly the wrong time to decide to forswear all violence, for at exactly that moment an angry mob of villagers was marching out to tear it limb from limb; Normally, the villagers wouldn't have stood a chance, but due to the tarrasque's newfound pacifism, the villagers were able to slaughter it without suffering so much as a scraped ankle on their part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarasque
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Requia ☣

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 04:32:39 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 31, 2009, 04:24:49 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 31, 2009, 04:20:01 AM
If you have an overpriced high-end scientific calculator you could use its random number generator to stand in for any kind of dice that you want it to

I did this, it made my DM paranoid as hell.

NOT D&D.  

you could at least *try* to make that make sense.  Like wait until I'm talking about playing online instead of face to face, or talking about some specific edition.  Or even just 'if there's no dice its not D&D'

Really, you're starting to slip.
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rong

Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 31, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
'if there's no dice its not D&D'

has a nice ring to it.

also - holyshitican'tbelievepeopleplaythisshitbutwhat'sblowingmymindevenmoreisthatireadthisstupidthreadgoplayoutside!
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 31, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
you could at least *try* to make that make sense.

Yeah, I could.  But I won't.  We Holy Men™ are supposed to be all vague and shit.

Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 31, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
Or even just 'if there's no dice its not D&D'

See?  You DID understand it.

Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 31, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
Really, you're starting to slip.

Was that really necessary?  Oh, well, I suppose it was.  My response is, of course, for you to go fuck yourself with various garden impliments, and then to never, ever take you seriously again, as you have zero sense of proportion.

Good day.
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Cain

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 31, 2009, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: derpsichord on August 31, 2009, 04:29:51 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_17455_15-retarded-dungeons-dragons-monsters.html
What is it?

The Demi-lich is a soul-eating floating skull that bides its time on a galleon full of treasure waiting for the Goonies to show up.

Where it Went Wrong:

Besides looking like a Pirates of the Caribbean alarm clock, the Demi-lich seems to possess no tactical advantages of any kind. It just kind of floats around, waiting for a party of heroes to smack it out of the air like a pinata.

We suppose it could try to bite you, but the illustration above kind of makes it look like the jaw is fused in place. Man, now we just feel sorry for it. :lol:


Sure, but you've got to weigh that against the mythological tale of futility and uncanny misfortune from which the Tarrasque originally is originally derived...

Apparently, the mythological Tarrasque was a dragon or some such creature which was terrorizing the French counterside. It tore apart every army that was sent to stop it. However, Saint Martha convinced the beast to convert to Christianity and become a pacifist. Unfortunately for the tarrasque, however, it chose exactly the wrong time to decide to forswear all violence, for at exactly that moment an angry mob of villagers was marching out to tear it limb from limb; Normally, the villagers wouldn't have stood a chance, but due to the tarrasque's newfound pacifism, the villagers were able to slaughter it without suffering so much as a scraped ankle on their part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarasque

What is it about monsters and the French countryside?  La Belle, which was some sort of giant, mutant wolf thing rampaged around the place for years too.  At least it didn't pussy out and become a pacifist though, they sent wolf-hunters to kill it.  Several times.

PopeTom

Quote from: rong on August 31, 2009, 07:33:28 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 31, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
'if there's no dice its not D&D'

has a nice ring to it.

also - holyshitican'tbelievepeopleplaythisshitbutwhat'sblowingmymindevenmoreisthatireadthisstupidthreadgoplayoutside!

Outside is for people who want skin cancer.
-PopeTom

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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.


a plague on both your houses -Mercutio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata


Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Have you seen the new version of the official D&D message board? Its the latest in a long line of betrayals by Wizards of the Coast
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.


a plague on both your houses -Mercutio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata


Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago

Shibboleet The Annihilator

Heh, this thread makes me want to try playing D&D.

Quote from: Requia ☣ on July 31, 2009, 01:45:53 AM
Quote from: PopeTom on July 31, 2009, 01:17:56 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on July 30, 2009, 10:30:17 PM
The very fact you learned 4e instead of 3.5 will brand you as an annoying newb pretty much forever.   :argh!:

as long as you and your friends are having fun playing there is no wrong RPG system.  Anything else is misdirected nerd rage.

I never said it was a bad system.  Its just not D&D.

They turned D&D into a tactics based mini game.
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Cramulus

Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 01, 2009, 03:45:58 AM
Heh, this thread makes me want to try playing D&D.

what I think you'd dig about D&D is the ongoing lineage of betrayed fanboys

don't get me wrong, I'm a D&D fanboy


but when second edition came out, all the existing D&D players threw their d20s in the air and went waaaaaaaaah

and then when the third edition came out like 15 years later, all the D&D 2e players went WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS, NOW YOU MEASURE THINGS IN SQUARES? omgWTF THIS ISN'T D&D

But some people loved it

and then a few years later, 3.5 came out, a slightly different / more streamlined version of 3rd edition.  And everyone that just sunk $200 on D&D 3.0 books went bawwwwwwwwwwww

but 3.5 was the most solid form of D&D yet.


and then 4.0 came out and all the 3.5 players went WHAT IS THIS SHIT, IT'S NOT EVEN D&D

and meanwhile, there are still first edition players out there who are like, "THERE USED TO BE ROLEPLAYING IN D&D BUT NOW EVERYBODY'S FORCED TO PLAY A MUNCHKIN IN A HACK AND SLASH CAMPAIGN"


I have friends that are still playing a second edition campaign because "it had the best roleplaying". ((And by this I think they mean nonweapon proficiencies?)) But I have to wonder, when they tried 3rd edition, did they stop roleplaying? Did they stop running puzzle encounters? Did they not use character backgrounds? If so, whose fault is that? It's a comment I genuinely don't understand. If the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle RPG was played by a group who wanted a RP-heavy game, it would be a RP-heavy game regardless of the system.

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Quote from: Cramulus on October 02, 2009, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 01, 2009, 03:45:58 AM
Heh, this thread makes me want to try playing D&D.

what I think you'd dig about D&D is the ongoing lineage of betrayed fanboys

don't get me wrong, I'm a D&D fanboy


but when second edition came out, all the existing D&D players threw their d20s in the air and went waaaaaaaaah

and then when the third edition came out like 15 years later, all the D&D 2e players went WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS, NOW YOU MEASURE THINGS IN SQUARES? omgWTF THIS ISN'T D&D

But some people loved it

and then a few years later, 3.5 came out, a slightly different / more streamlined version of 3rd edition.  And everyone that just sunk $200 on D&D 3.0 books went bawwwwwwwwwwww

but 3.5 was the most solid form of D&D yet.


and then 4.0 came out and all the 3.5 players went WHAT IS THIS SHIT, IT'S NOT EVEN D&D

and meanwhile, there are still first edition players out there who are like, "THERE USED TO BE ROLEPLAYING IN D&D BUT NOW EVERYBODY'S FORCED TO PLAY A MUNCHKIN IN A HACK AND SLASH CAMPAIGN"


I have friends that are still playing a second edition campaign because "it had the best roleplaying". ((And by this I think they mean nonweapon proficiencies?)) But I have to wonder, when they tried 3rd edition, did they stop roleplaying? Did they stop running puzzle encounters? Did they not use character backgrounds? If so, whose fault is that? It's a comment I genuinely don't understand. If the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle RPG was played by a group who wanted a RP-heavy game, it would be a RP-heavy game regardless of the system.

My main beef with 4.0 is that they added lots of cool tactical elements (which I'll give them credit for,) but removed a lot of the non-tactical abilities of the various characters (mostly magic-users here,) and that the whole thing is a lot less customizable.  By non-tactical, I mean things like spells that last for more than 5 minutes, or have a range of longer than the average battle size but are still useful in a fight.  And a lot of abilities are only useful if you can use them twice in the same encounter - only the most basic attacks can be used more than once in a fight.  Sure, you can teleport at tactical speeds - but only 250' away - and you can't teleport back.  You have to walk.  So no grabbing a friend, teleporting him a safe place, and then returning to the fight.  And no trapping a creature in a tunnel with a pair of instant walls - you only get one wall per day.  No Charming every citizen of a town one by one, etc, etc.

More than that though, is the customability factor.  Two member of the same class in 4.0 mostly vary only by abilities chosen, and since almost all the abilities are combat focused, it's less a matter of what your character does than how he does it.

It's still a roleplaying game, and not a terrible system in and of itself, it's just as different from 3.5 as 3.5 is from GURPS or HeroSystem.
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