Israeli ground forces to enter Gaza

[P3nT4gR4m]

I don't hate Jews. I just believe that the nation of israel was created illegally. Having people leave their own land against their will to create a new nation is immoral.

So what would you have done about it? Dissolve the state of Israel and force the jews off the land against their will?

Fucking nazi.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I don't hate Jews. I just believe that the nation of israel was created illegally. Having people leave their own land against their will to create a new nation is immoral.

the Puritan settlers created america illegally,  go home immoral britspag

Agreed. The United States of America, Australia and Israel are three examples of countries which should not actually exist.

Right, but thats done... Israel is not an Occupying Force... its a fuckin Country. Maybe one that shouldn't have been created, I won't argue... but that's horse has left the line, finished the race, grew old, got put out for stud and is currently being eaten by Joey the first grader for a late afternoon Elmer's cream snack.

NOW, the issue is Israel exists and Palestine exists... and they are gonna have to learn to play nice together. Shooting rockets at your neighbor is not nice. Half-starving your neighbor and cutting them off from the rest of the world is also not nice.

Care to join us in the 21st century?

THIS!

Also, worth noting, is that the whole idea of nationalities is a bunch of arbitrary gobshite at best and most of them were created by fighting and squabbling over which bit of land belonged to whom. By this token the creation of Israel was relatively painless in comparison.

[The Iron Lung]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the descendants of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

[AFK]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Not a Nazi, maybe, but it's funny that you used the word decedent. 

[OPTIMUS PINECONE]

     Friends don't let friends go to war alone http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/11/un-ceasefire-bid-weakened-by-us-abstention/

[Cain]

This thread is now approaching: clusterfuck.  Please keep all hands inside the vehicle, and make sure your seatbelts are secured correctly,

[The Iron Lung]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Not a Nazi, maybe, but it's funny that you used the word decedent. 

Fixed.

[LMNO]

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Not a Nazi, maybe, but it's funny that you used the word decedent. 

[Messier Undertree]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Jesus fuck. I am asking what you do believe should be done, not what you are against. It is a simple question.

What is it with people like you? You piss and moan about how things are but never propose any viable solutions.

Let me guess. You're in your university's Marxist study group, aren't you?

[AFK]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Not a Nazi, maybe, but it's funny that you used the word decedent. 

Fixed.

Ahh, but your conscience has already spoken for you. 

[The Iron Lung]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Jesus fuck. I am asking what you do believe should be done, not what you are against. It is a simple question.

What is it with people like you? You piss and moan about how things are but never propose any viable solutions.

Let me guess. You're in your university's Marxist study group, aren't you?

No I'm not, I'm actually quite the capitalist.
What can be done? Right now absolutely nothing. If anything could be done it would have been done already.

[Messier Undertree]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Jesus fuck. I am asking what you do believe should be done, not what you are against. It is a simple question.

What is it with people like you? You piss and moan about how things are but never propose any viable solutions.

Let me guess. You're in your university's Marxist study group, aren't you?

No I'm not, I'm actually quite the capitalist.
What can be done? Right now absolutely nothing. If anything could be done it would have been done already.

Oh right. Have you read Atlas Shrugged?

[The Iron Lung]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Jesus fuck. I am asking what you do believe should be done, not what you are against. It is a simple question.

What is it with people like you? You piss and moan about how things are but never propose any viable solutions.

Let me guess. You're in your university's Marxist study group, aren't you?

No I'm not, I'm actually quite the capitalist.
What can be done? Right now absolutely nothing. If anything could be done it would have been done already.

Oh right. Have you read Atlas Shrugged?

I have heard of it though have never read it.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Israel is an occupying force in the middle east, the real reason they were given the land was the biblical significance of it. There is no historical evidence to claim that the jews were the original inhabitants of that land.

So what has been done is forcing the Palestinians off land which has been in their families for many generations, to create a nation which today has only existed for not even a century.

I didn't ask for a history lesson, retard. I'm asking what you think the solution should be.

Mass relocation of the jews, maybe? Or will you skip that and go straight to genocide?

At the moment its way to late. Now most of the people who live in Israel are the decedents of those who were placed there and so to them it is their home.
I do not believe the Israelis should be removed and I definitely do not believe in genocide. I'm not a Nazi, Sorry to disappoint.

Jesus fuck. I am asking what you do believe should be done, not what you are against. It is a simple question.

What is it with people like you? You piss and moan about how things are but never propose any viable solutions.

Let me guess. You're in your university's Marxist study group, aren't you?

No I'm not, I'm actually quite the capitalist.
What can be done? Right now absolutely nothing. If anything could be done it would have been done already.

THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT!!! WHATEVER COULD WE HAVE DONE WITHOUT THAT LOVELY SUMMATION?!

[Cain]

Anyway. To underscore P3nts point, Olmert has been boasting to the press today about how he bitchslapped Condi Rice, via Bush

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/washington/13olmert.html?ref=Washington

In an unusually public rebuke, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel said Monday that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had been forced to abstain from a United Nations resolution on Gaza that she helped draft, after Mr. Olmert placed a phone call to President Bush.

"I said, 'Get me President Bush on the phone,' " Mr. Olmert said in a speech in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon, according to The Associated Press. "They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care: 'I need to talk to him now,' " Mr. Olmert continued. "He got off the podium and spoke to me."

[Ari]

Anyway. To underscore P3nts point, Olmert has been boasting to the press today about how he bitchslapped Condi Rice, via Bush

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/washington/13olmert.html?ref=Washington

In an unusually public rebuke, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel said Monday that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had been forced to abstain from a United Nations resolution on Gaza that she helped draft, after Mr. Olmert placed a phone call to President Bush.

"I said, 'Get me President Bush on the phone,' " Mr. Olmert said in a speech in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon, according to The Associated Press. "They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care: 'I need to talk to him now,' " Mr. Olmert continued. "He got off the podium and spoke to me."

Something urged me to illustrate this...