No more hyphens.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

I can get behind this to a point.  My only exception are those people who have been allocated Native-Americans.  Hell they aren't even divided tribally anymore.  BUT, they deserve the hyphen.  Hell they are the only "true Americans".  So we can divide the whole US into Native-Americans and Interloping-Land raping-disease ridden-greedy-Americans!



Seriously, I hate the hyphen thing too.  Unless it annoys someone I want to piss off then I'm the Irish-Cherokee-American 

Otherwise, I'm just that bitch over there 

[LMNO]

I guess you haven't read ECH's rant about the red man.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Oh fuck....

Nope never read it.  How much digging to I have to do?

[LMNO]

Probably a lot.


I think it might have been a few years.

Could have been bumped during the Lamanite scourge.

[Cain]

Long story short: the Plains Indians were pretty damn brutal (in particular, though I recall some PNW tribes could be nasty little sods too).  Whitey just had superior ROF.

[LMNO]

Also some bit about them not actually being "native".

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Also some bit about them not actually being "native".

No way man!
       \
       

[Cain]

Also some bit about them not actually being "native".

Well, yeah.

Cain,
genetic native of Africa.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Are there truly any natives of anywhere?  Weren't all people nomadic in nature at one time in their history?

[HRD Frederick T Fowyer]

I think the hyphen issue has been misappropriated, but does have a valid use.

As has been suggested, it's used to refer to subcultures within american culture-- not to indicate some sort of "double citizenship," or even a blend between cultures. I'm thinking specifically of African-American, here: part of the problem for the descendants of slaves is that being forcibly removed from their homelands had robbed them of any cultural identity except for the slave culture which they had cobbled together from bits and pieces of African, American, Native American, and Caribbean cultures. So they clearly weren't African anymore, in any real sense (they couldn't go 'home' and be seen as natives), nor were they white, obviously, so they couldn't just be American either. Same for Irish immigrants, who were just 'yanks' if they went back over, and I'm sure of many others. So there's a sort of creole culture for which the hyphenated terms have some use.

Trouble is when people use such terms to describe Ethnicity rather than culture-- an easy mistake to make, because most people are just American (read: white) in terms of culture, and don't want to admit it, because of, y'know, slavery oppression and genocide.

And culture has everything to do with how you're raised, and nothing to do with where, or even by whom.

[hooplala]

Are there truly any natives of anywhere?  Weren't all people nomadic in nature at one time in their history?

I am native to this planet. 

For me, it ends there.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I think this thread has kind of degenerated into retarded oversimplification.

[LMNO]

NO U?

[AFK]

So now we're doing it wrong in Or Kill Me too? 

[LMNO]

It's contagious.  Like ebola.