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Fuquad

Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaOFFICIAL HANDBOOK: The Honest Book Of Truth, which runs into
several esoteric volumes, including: THE FIVE PILLARS OF RUBBISH;
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO OMAR; THE CHAOSPHE BIBLE; THE BOOKS OF
BOKONON; THE WAY OF THE CHAO; and many others which, like most of
the above, have not yet been written — but we're working on them.
UNOFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS: The Lay Books (not to be confused with
obscene literature) which include at present: CATCH-22; CAT'S
CRADLE; and ONE FLEW OVER THE COOKCO'3 NESTS.

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/06.html
The five Pillars of rubbish is not mentioned in the Wiki article nor are The Gospel Acording to Omar; The Books of Bokonon; nor the Way of the Chao which could be argued to have been worked on.
Also contains an excerpt from the "SUMMA UNIVERSALIA"

Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaTHE MYTH OF ICHABOD

   There once was a huge boulder, perched precariously, on the
edge of a cliff.  For hundreds of years this boulder was there,
rocking and swaying, but always keeping its balance just perfectly.
But one year, there happened to be a sever windstorm; severe enough
it was, to topple the  boulder from its majectic height and dash it
to the bottom cf the cliff, far far below.  Needless to say, the
boulder was smashed into many pieces.  Where it hit, the ground was
covered with a carpet of pebbles--some small and some large--but
pebbles and pebbles and more pebbles for as far as you could walk
in an hour.

   One day, after all this, a young man by the name of Ichabod
happened on the area.  Being a fellow of keen mind and observational
powers, naturally he was quite astounded to see so many stones
scattered so closely on the ground.  Now, Ichabod was very much
interested in the nature of things, and he spent the whole afternoon
looking at pebbles, and measuring the size of pebbles, and feeling
the weight of pebbles, and just pondering about pebbles in general.

   He spent the night there, not wanting to lose this miraculous
find, and awoke the next morning full of enthusiasm.  He spent
many days on his carpet of stones.

   Eventually he noticed a very strange thing.  There were three
rather large stones on the carpet and they formed a triangle--
almost (but not quite) equilateral.  He was amazed.  Looking further
he found four very white stones that were arranged in a lopsided
square.  Then he saw that by disregarding one white stone and
thinking of that grey stone a foot over instead, it was a perfect
square!  And if you chose this stone, and that stone, and that one,
and that one and that one you have a pentagon as large as the tri-
angle.  And here a small hexagon.  And there a square partially
inside of the hexagon.  And a decagon.  And two triangles inter-
locked.  And a circle.  And a smaller circle within the circle.
And a triangle within that which has a red stone, a grey stone and
a white stone.

   Ichabod spent many hours finding many designs that became
more and more complicated as his powers of observation grew with
practice.  Then he began to log his designs in a large leather
book; and as he counted designs and described them, the pages
began to fill as the sun continued to return.

   He had begun his second ledger when a friend came by.  His
friend was a poet and also interested in the nature of things.

   "My friend," cried Ichabod, "come quickly!  I have discovered
the most wonderous thing in the universe."  The poet hurried over
to him, quite anxious to see what it was.

   Ichabod showed him the carpet of stones...but the poet only
laughed and said "It's nothing but scattered rocks!"

   "But look," said Ichabod, 'see this triangle and that [square]
and that and that."  And he proceeded to show his friend theharvest of his many days study. When the poet saw the designs he
turned to the ledgers and by the time he was finished with these,
he too was overwhelmed.

   He began to write poetry about the marvelous designs.  And as
he wrote and contemplated he became sure that the designs must
mean something.  Such order and beauty is too monumental to be
senseless.  And the designs were there, Ichabod had showed him [that.]

   The poet went back to the village and read his new poetry.
And all who heard him went to the cliff to see first hand the [carpet]
of designs.  And all returned to the village to spread the word.
Then as the enthusiasm grew there developed a group of those who
love beauty and nature, all of whom went to live right at the
Designs themselves.  Together they wanted to see every design that
was there.

   Some wrote ledger about just triangles.  Others described the
circles.  Others concentrated on red colored stones--and they
happened to be the first to see designs springing from outside the
carpet.  They, and some others, saw designs everywhere they went.

   "How blind we have been," they said.

   The movement grew and grew and grew.  And all who could see the
designs knew that they had to have been put there by a Great Force.
"Nothing but a Great Force," said the philosophers, "could create
this immense beauty!"

   "Yes," said the world, "nothing but a god could create such
magnificent order.  Nothing but a God."

   And that was the day that God was born.  And ever since then,
all men have known Him for His infinite power and all men have
loved Him for His infinite wisdom.


-----


Exerpted from a treatise concerning The Nature of Gods and The
Eristesque Movement, to be found in the SUMMA UNIVERSALIA, the
Holy Work of MALACLYPSE (THE YOUNGER), K.C., Omniscient Polyfather
of Virginity-in-gold, and High Priest of The Heretic Fringe and
Protestant Persuasion of the ERISIAN MOVEMENT of the DISCORDIAN
SOCIETY ===== Hail Eris

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/13.html
http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/14.html

Because the part about the Summa Universalia says the name is mentioned. it's not only mentioned but quoted from.
THE WORST FORUM ON THE INTERNET

Cain

Shii is registered and activated.  Hi Shii!

I thought I recognized that name from somewhere...and I knew Davedim knew a "Shii" from somewhere, but this makes a whole lot of sense.

Fucking Uncle BadTouch, messing shit up for everyone else.  I shoulda expected that right from the start.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 09:32:33 AM
Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaOFFICIAL HANDBOOK: The Honest Book Of Truth, which runs into
several esoteric volumes, including: THE FIVE PILLARS OF RUBBISH;
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO OMAR; THE CHAOSPHE BIBLE; THE BOOKS OF
BOKONON; THE WAY OF THE CHAO; and many others which, like most of
the above, have not yet been written — but we're working on them.
UNOFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS: The Lay Books (not to be confused with
obscene literature) which include at present: CATCH-22; CAT'S
CRADLE; and ONE FLEW OVER THE COOKCO'3 NESTS.

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/06.html
The five Pillars of rubbish is not mentioned in the Wiki article nor are The Gospel Acording to Omar; The Books of Bokonon; nor the Way of the Chao which could be argued to have been worked on.
Also contains an excerpt from the "SUMMA UNIVERSALIA"

Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaTHE MYTH OF ICHABOD

   There once was a huge boulder, perched precariously, on the
edge of a cliff.  For hundreds of years this boulder was there,
rocking and swaying, but always keeping its balance just perfectly.
But one year, there happened to be a sever windstorm; severe enough
it was, to topple the  boulder from its majectic height and dash it
to the bottom cf the cliff, far far below.  Needless to say, the
boulder was smashed into many pieces.  Where it hit, the ground was
covered with a carpet of pebbles--some small and some large--but
pebbles and pebbles and more pebbles for as far as you could walk
in an hour.

   One day, after all this, a young man by the name of Ichabod
happened on the area.  Being a fellow of keen mind and observational
powers, naturally he was quite astounded to see so many stones
scattered so closely on the ground.  Now, Ichabod was very much
interested in the nature of things, and he spent the whole afternoon
looking at pebbles, and measuring the size of pebbles, and feeling
the weight of pebbles, and just pondering about pebbles in general.

   He spent the night there, not wanting to lose this miraculous
find, and awoke the next morning full of enthusiasm.  He spent
many days on his carpet of stones.

   Eventually he noticed a very strange thing.  There were three
rather large stones on the carpet and they formed a triangle--
almost (but not quite) equilateral.  He was amazed.  Looking further
he found four very white stones that were arranged in a lopsided
square.  Then he saw that by disregarding one white stone and
thinking of that grey stone a foot over instead, it was a perfect
square!  And if you chose this stone, and that stone, and that one,
and that one and that one you have a pentagon as large as the tri-
angle.  And here a small hexagon.  And there a square partially
inside of the hexagon.  And a decagon.  And two triangles inter-
locked.  And a circle.  And a smaller circle within the circle.
And a triangle within that which has a red stone, a grey stone and
a white stone.

   Ichabod spent many hours finding many designs that became
more and more complicated as his powers of observation grew with
practice.  Then he began to log his designs in a large leather
book; and as he counted designs and described them, the pages
began to fill as the sun continued to return.

   He had begun his second ledger when a friend came by.  His
friend was a poet and also interested in the nature of things.

   "My friend," cried Ichabod, "come quickly!  I have discovered
the most wonderous thing in the universe."  The poet hurried over
to him, quite anxious to see what it was.

   Ichabod showed him the carpet of stones...but the poet only
laughed and said "It's nothing but scattered rocks!"

   "But look," said Ichabod, 'see this triangle and that [square]
and that and that."  And he proceeded to show his friend theharvest of his many days study. When the poet saw the designs he
turned to the ledgers and by the time he was finished with these,
he too was overwhelmed.

   He began to write poetry about the marvelous designs.  And as
he wrote and contemplated he became sure that the designs must
mean something.  Such order and beauty is too monumental to be
senseless.  And the designs were there, Ichabod had showed him [that.]

   The poet went back to the village and read his new poetry.
And all who heard him went to the cliff to see first hand the [carpet]
of designs.  And all returned to the village to spread the word.
Then as the enthusiasm grew there developed a group of those who
love beauty and nature, all of whom went to live right at the
Designs themselves.  Together they wanted to see every design that
was there.

   Some wrote ledger about just triangles.  Others described the
circles.  Others concentrated on red colored stones--and they
happened to be the first to see designs springing from outside the
carpet.  They, and some others, saw designs everywhere they went.

   "How blind we have been," they said.

   The movement grew and grew and grew.  And all who could see the
designs knew that they had to have been put there by a Great Force.
"Nothing but a Great Force," said the philosophers, "could create
this immense beauty!"

   "Yes," said the world, "nothing but a god could create such
magnificent order.  Nothing but a God."

   And that was the day that God was born.  And ever since then,
all men have known Him for His infinite power and all men have
loved Him for His infinite wisdom.


-----


Exerpted from a treatise concerning The Nature of Gods and The
Eristesque Movement, to be found in the SUMMA UNIVERSALIA, the
Holy Work of MALACLYPSE (THE YOUNGER), K.C., Omniscient Polyfather
of Virginity-in-gold, and High Priest of The Heretic Fringe and
Protestant Persuasion of the ERISIAN MOVEMENT of the DISCORDIAN
SOCIETY ===== Hail Eris

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/13.html
http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/14.html

Because the part about the Summa Universalia says the name is mentioned. it's not only mentioned but quoted from.

Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Shii

QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

:lulz:
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson


Cramulus

hi shii! :wave:

So nice of you to check in! We're always looking for other "Discordians" on the Intarwebs that don't seem to be total rutabagas.

I spent a good portion of last night reading your Shii Knows site, and I really like what you have to say. I think you'll resonate with some of the energy we have here - in particular check out this magazine thing we're doing, Intermittens -- issue 2 is themed "The Elements of New Discordia", which I think you'd dig quite a bit - http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Intermittens

Anyway, welcome to PD... here's a brief tour:

-Apple Talk is the fluff forum
-Operation Mindfuck is for pranks and mindfucks, as well as a lot of internet trolling or safari-ing (the opposite of destructive trolling)
-Or Kill Me is for rants and sermons
-Think For Yourself Shmuck started off as the Black Iron Prison forum, but has expanded to be about any new projects, new ideas, or new energy.

if you stick around, we'd love to hear your thoughts on some of this stuff

Messier Undertree

Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
:x Hi everyone.

Hey guy. :lol:

I'm not sure if you do IRC much anymore, but you should get on PD's IRC channel sometime. It's at #discord on irc.maddshark.com.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: This is great!

Lots of people agree, this is not a nice place at all.

Welcome to Thunderdome, Shii. :)
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Fuquad

Quote from: Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:46:50 PM


Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
I was just thinking that I've seen accusations of sock puppetry surrounding Discordianism and that someone joining up to edit one post about an already disputed article might arouse suspicion towards the edit.

But what do I know?
I like Bubble Boy.
THE WORST FORUM ON THE INTERNET

LMNO


Cain

Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

The worst thing is how the administration take such nasty comments, break them up into short, pithy sentences and them put them into the newsfeed in order to mock such criticisms.

8)

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:46:50 PM


Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
I was just thinking that I've seen accusations of sock puppetry surrounding Discordianism and that someone joining up to edit one post about an already disputed article might arouse suspicion towards the edit.

But what do I know?
I like Bubble Boy.

Yeah, but posting it here STILL DOES NOTHING.

And if your citation is valid, so what if one person signing up to make one edit arouses suspicion? So they'll check your source. I think they'd do that with anyone who made an edit, small or large.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Triple Zero

Quote from: Malachite on January 16, 2009, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
:x Hi everyone.

Hey guy. :lol:

I'm not sure if you do IRC much anymore, but you should get on PD's IRC channel sometime. It's at #discord on irc.maddshark.com.

you can go straight to IRC here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/irc

it's SUPER FUN:

(2009-01-16 19:22:28) [000]: anyway, ask me why I think shii has a very mushroomy take on everything
(2009-01-16 19:22:37) Lysergic: why do you think that, 000?
(2009-01-16 19:22:43) [000]: because it's the shii take
(2009-01-16 19:22:48) Lysergic: ...
(2009-01-16 19:22:49) ENKI-][: lol :<
(2009-01-16 19:22:54) Lysergic: I love you 000
(2009-01-16 19:23:01) Cramulus: baaaaaaaaaa 000!
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.