Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.

[Elder Iptuous]

Alls i knows is that it was 80 degrees out yesterday in the middle of January, and that's global warming!  but today, it's only 48 degrees out, so the global warmings must be over....
I don't need no sciiiiiientist to tell me that, I'll tell you wut!!
    \

HURR HURR HURR
And the North Pole melting is just a seasonal thing!
HURR HURR HURR

I'm sorry....
Did you think that was directed at you?  Nono.... I was just commenting on the way a bunch of the redneck goobers i work with sound on the issue, speaking in definite terms as if they are anywhere near qualified to make proclamations about what the climatologists themselves are apparently unsure of...
Incidentally, the North Pole melting is seasonal, just with increasing duration and magnitude in correspondence with the global temperature rise (that i happen to agree with you on, based on what i know), right?

[Kai]

Alls i knows is that it was 80 degrees out yesterday in the middle of January, and that's global warming!  but today, it's only 48 degrees out, so the global warmings must be over....
I don't need no sciiiiiientist to tell me that, I'll tell you wut!!
    \

HURR HURR HURR
And the North Pole melting is just a seasonal thing!
HURR HURR HURR

I'm sorry....
Did you think that was directed at you?  Nono.... I was just commenting on the way a bunch of the redneck goobers i work with sound on the issue, speaking in definite terms as if they are anywhere near qualified to make proclamations about what the climatologists themselves are apparently unsure of...
Incidentally, the North Pole melting is seasonal, just with increasing duration and magnitude in correspondence with the global temperature rise (that i happen to agree with you on, based on what i know), right?

IIRC, there is usually some summer ice, but last summer there was less ice than ever recorded before. Its like melting of permafrost, same idea; theres some melt every year, but usually not the massive amount that has been occurring.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Alls i knows is that it was 80 degrees out yesterday in the middle of January, and that's global warming!  but today, it's only 48 degrees out, so the global warmings must be over....
I don't need no sciiiiiientist to tell me that, I'll tell you wut!!
    \

HURR HURR HURR
And the North Pole melting is just a seasonal thing!
HURR HURR HURR

I'm sorry....
Did you think that was directed at you?  Nono.... I was just commenting on the way a bunch of the redneck goobers i work with sound on the issue, speaking in definite terms as if they are anywhere near qualified to make proclamations about what the climatologists themselves are apparently unsure of...
Incidentally, the North Pole melting is seasonal, just with increasing duration and magnitude in correspondence with the global temperature rise (that i happen to agree with you on, based on what i know), right?

I was agreeing with you.

[Kai]

Next one is going to be about how tired I'm hearing about evolution. 

Kai,

Going insane, slowly.

There's a way to shut those assholes up.

Next time you run into a partisan of either side, you simply respond with "Either we evolved from monkeys, or we're supposed to look like this, and I'm not impressed either way."

Or you can just hit them with TGRR's "least fit monkey theory".

It was a joke. Was going to post a "rant" about how much I hate evolutionary theory, just to see if I could pull it off. Figured if I'm going to be controversial I might as well be EXTRA controversial.

Least Fit Monkey theory is where we got kicked out of the trees by the other apes, right?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Alls i knows is that it was 80 degrees out yesterday in the middle of January, and that's global warming!  but today, it's only 48 degrees out, so the global warmings must be over....
I don't need no sciiiiiientist to tell me that, I'll tell you wut!!
    \

HURR HURR HURR
And the North Pole melting is just a seasonal thing!
HURR HURR HURR

I'm sorry....
Did you think that was directed at you?  Nono.... I was just commenting on the way a bunch of the redneck goobers i work with sound on the issue, speaking in definite terms as if they are anywhere near qualified to make proclamations about what the climatologists themselves are apparently unsure of...
Incidentally, the North Pole melting is seasonal, just with increasing duration and magnitude in correspondence with the global temperature rise (that i happen to agree with you on, based on what i know), right?

IIRC, there is usually some summer ice, but last summer there was less ice than ever recorded before. Its like melting of permafrost, same idea; theres some melt every year, but usually not the massive amount that has been occurring.

And now, apparently, the South pole, which has been GAINING ice, is starting to warm up drastically.

The best part about this is watching meteorologists flinging themselves out of windows when their computer models turn out to be garbage.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Next one is going to be about how tired I'm hearing about evolution. 

Kai,

Going insane, slowly.

There's a way to shut those assholes up.

Next time you run into a partisan of either side, you simply respond with "Either we evolved from monkeys, or we're supposed to look like this, and I'm not impressed either way."

Or you can just hit them with TGRR's "least fit monkey theory".

It was a joke. Was going to post a "rant" about how much I hate evolutionary theory, just to see if I could pull it off. Figured if I'm going to be controversial I might as well be EXTRA controversial.

Least Fit Monkey theory is where we got kicked out of the trees by the other apes, right?

Troof.  The successful creatures don't NEED to evolve.

[Kai]

Unless the environment changes.

I don't like the word successful much in terms of evolution. Too short term. The dinosaurs were sucessful, in terms of numbers of species and how ubiquitous they were. Then you reach the K-T boundary and those old forms haven't been around since. The progeny are doing pretty well right now, Mammals and Birds, but its yet to be seen how it will turn out.

Horseshoe crabs haven't changed much for the past 300 million years but they live in a very stable environment, continental shelves and such. If that were to change quickly they wouldn't have a chance.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Unless the environment changes.

Then they are no longer successful.

[Elder Iptuous]

Unless the environment changes.

Then they are no longer successful.

what about genetic drift?
that's still evolution, no?

Edit: after realizing that you didn't claim that they don't change if they are currently 'successful'...

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Unless the environment changes.

Then they are no longer successful.

what about genetic drift?
that's still evolution, no?

Sure.  But if the drift causes a less successful trait, then the creature doesn't breed, and it's business as usual.

[Requia ☣]

[insert shit about the south pole warming I deleted in a moment of asstardedness]

Aw fuck, seriously?  Cause I really don't want anymore coastal flooding refugees here.  The last batch went crazy and one of em tried to burn his apartment down.  With him still inside.

[Requia ☣]

Next one is going to be about how tired I'm hearing about evolution. 

Kai,

Going insane, slowly.

There's a way to shut those assholes up.

Next time you run into a partisan of either side, you simply respond with "Either we evolved from monkeys, or we're supposed to look like this, and I'm not impressed either way."

Or you can just hit them with TGRR's "least fit monkey theory".

It was a joke. Was going to post a "rant" about how much I hate evolutionary theory, just to see if I could pull it off. Figured if I'm going to be controversial I might as well be EXTRA controversial.

Least Fit Monkey theory is where we got kicked out of the trees by the other apes, right?

Troof.  The successful creatures don't NEED to evolve.

This is... very close, if not spot on, to the current major theory.

[Vene]

Unless the environment changes.

Then they are no longer successful.

what about genetic drift?
that's still evolution, no?

Edit: after realizing that you didn't claim that they don't change if they are currently 'successful'...

Genetic trait mostly effects traits that are neutral with respect to survival and propagation (and will eventually cause speciation).  Now, when something changes, then the direction of the drift could fuck over some species.

And as far as I'm concerned the most successful organism has got to be some bacterial species.

[Suu]

And now, apparently, the South pole, which has been GAINING ice, is starting to warm up drastically.

This is because the Earth tilts during seasons for one, it's proximity to the sun for two, and you know, that giant ozone hole that's down there for strike three.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And now, apparently, the South pole, which has been GAINING ice, is starting to warm up drastically.

This is because the Earth tilts during seasons for one, it's proximity to the sun for two, and you know, that giant ozone hole that's down there for strike three.

Maybe.  If that were the case, then the rate of ice loss should equal that of past years.  Whether it is or not is at present not clear.