Point of views on the new president of the United States.

[Seth_The_Fallen]

I fucking hate the government. Plain and simple.

The only government we have is more of a dictatorship. My dear friend. I don't like being the ass in some topics but dear god! I didn't know we have a government. Some one tell me it is not so!

I am with The Good Rev. Roger here. We don't have a government.

[fomenter]

Shit, only a mile?  I could have taken the bus!

Of course, walking to school here may be a bit more practical than walking to school in wherever the hell you are, the only real hazard I ever faced was the trains full of nuclear that ran behind my school and pissed of teenagers trying to run me over.

hell i used to walk a mile in Canadian snow storms,
but not in CA traffic

[Jenne]

It's not the mileage, per se.  It's the incentive to get the kid to school in the first place.  No bus, why go?  And we're not talking a mile in a lot of these rural areas, we're talking more like 10.  Which definitely makes it punitive.

Amurrica, where we really stopped giving a shit about how educated our populace is or is going to get.

[fomenter]

i have to look it up but i think 1 mile applies to 1st thru 8th, high school mileage is 4+. kindergarten is cut completely..young children in traffic is one part, young children walking with pedos on the loose is another, kids not going to school at all is a big part.. 

[OPTIMUS PINECONE]

WOW I posted a good topic here. I believe that obama  is not going to lead us into a time of wealth, but into a time that bead is for the super rich like bill gates. This is not the time to be doing any giving of money like what he is doing. if you give in a time of debt what do you do? make more debt of course. it is not going to be good on the part of the tax payers and I will rather die then see my country fall to depths of abyss it will.

what you seem to be missing is that he didn't START the stimulus or the bailout. it was already a-go and in place before he even came into office. bush set forth the first of the bailout before the inauguration, and if memory serves me correctly, before the elections were over(i could be wrong in that). so obama didn't start the fire, he has to figure out a way to put it out with what he's been given. capiche?
he didn't want this shit, he didn't want to have to deal with this particular shit, but he had no choice upon entering office. it was already put into place. the board was already set, he just has to figure out which pawns can be sacrificed to save the fucking king.
i give the man kudos for actually WANTING this position.
what have YOU done. hell, what have I done.
i will do what i need. will you?

    Squid. You're hardly correct on these points. Firstly, he ABSOLUTELY voted in favour of the bailout, as an individual. Secondly, he has spent the last several weeks kicking and screaming "mo money, mo money" for the stimulus, which he fully stands behind and wishes it were much more reckless of an endeavor than congress will allow. In both cases, Obama's LARGEST financial supporters are the direct receivers of both the "bailout" and the "stimulus".  

    A STICK is a better presidential option than "W", no contest there.

    VIDEODROME has a great opinion on this topic, couldn't have said it better.

    TGRR is right on in regards to American politics being a fucking sham, his negativism (on this topic) is unfortunately a clear view.

    Obama is going to lay waste to what's left of America, in lock step, for those "few" which he serves. Obama is a fucking fake, he's the "ANTI-W" tool of deception, a pawn move played perfectly by the financial institutions which comprise & arrange American politics. He's a pied piper, America's Tony Blair.

    In regards to military, Obama wants America to police the world to a far greater extent, and ultimately plans a a separate military just for within U.S. borders.

    But never mind, he's half black, now we can all feel good.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

A) Obama, like all presidents is a figurehead. He gets a little capital and everything else is wheeling and dealing in DC. Just like Bush and Clinton and Bush and Regan and Carter and ... well you get the idea. Obama can't 'do' anything horrific unless Congress goes along with it. Just like Bush couldn't really do much of anything without Congress (hell, he even informed a subset of them, including Dems, about tossing civil liberties out the window). To think he will destroy or save America is silly.

B) The Apocalypse comes every generation. Every social order dies, sometimes it dies in a horrific blaze and takes a country or two down with it... but overall, every human that lives long enough will see their world destroyed as by fire and replaced with an alien civilization. Consider someone who is 100 years old right now, the world they see today is nothing like the world they were born into. In fact, I'd say a few worlds have experienced apocalypse in that span of time.

C) California is the 10th largest economy in the world. They don't need bailout funds, they need to fire their government and replace it entirely. The they need to spend based on income, not based on the income of Silicon Valley during the Tech Boom. I feel for the citizens like poor Jenne... but really... fuck California in the ear.

[Seth_The_Fallen]

WOW I posted a good topic here. I believe that obama  is not going to lead us into a time of wealth, but into a time that bead is for the super rich like bill gates. This is not the time to be doing any giving of money like what he is doing. if you give in a time of debt what do you do? make more debt of course. it is not going to be good on the part of the tax payers and I will rather die then see my country fall to depths of abyss it will.

what you seem to be missing is that he didn't START the stimulus or the bailout. it was already a-go and in place before he even came into office. bush set forth the first of the bailout before the inauguration, and if memory serves me correctly, before the elections were over(i could be wrong in that). so obama didn't start the fire, he has to figure out a way to put it out with what he's been given. capiche?
he didn't want this shit, he didn't want to have to deal with this particular shit, but he had no choice upon entering office. it was already put into place. the board was already set, he just has to figure out which pawns can be sacrificed to save the fucking king.
i give the man kudos for actually WANTING this position.
what have YOU done. hell, what have I done.
i will do what i need. will you?

    Squid. You're hardly correct on these points. Firstly, he ABSOLUTELY voted in favour of the bailout, as an individual. Secondly, he has spent the last several weeks kicking and screaming "mo money, mo money" for the stimulus, which he fully stands behind and wishes it were much more reckless of an endeavor than congress will allow. In both cases, Obama's LARGEST financial supporters are the direct receivers of both the "bailout" and the "stimulus".  

    A STICK is a better presidential option than "W", no contest there.

    VIDEODROME has a great opinion on this topic, couldn't have said it better.

    TGRR is right on in regards to American politics being a fucking sham, his negativism (on this topic) is unfortunately a clear view.

    Obama is going to lay waste to what's left of America, in lock step, for those "few" which he serves. Obama is a fucking fake, he's the "ANTI-W" tool of deception, a pawn move played perfectly by the financial institutions which comprise & arrange American politics. He's a pied piper, America's Tony Blair.

    In regards to military, Obama wants America to police the world to a far greater extent, and ultimately plans a a separate military just for within U.S. borders.

    But never mind, he's half black, now we can all feel good.

I really think Bush was a fine president, He made a few mistakes but who doesn't? I bet you that almost every president made at least one mistake that cost him something. I think you are just sponging up what the media is telling you. You have to look into the person's point of views and how much pressure he is under. Some of the bills that was past during Bush's term was vetoed by him and pass by the senate, it was not hid fault on some of the things he was blamed for.

I think the one and only big mistake he did was make the terrorist camps and cities a big crater then into a Walmart. But that is just my point of views on the subject of Bush's terms in office.

[Requia ☣]

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[Requia ☣]

50 bucks says in 10 years the historians decide Bush is the worst president n History.

I make this bet the full confidence that after the wreck Bush left this country in, I will be lucky to be able to get a gallon of milk with said fifty.

[P3nT4gR4m]

50 bucks says in 10 years the historians decide Bush is the worst president n History.

I make this bet the full confidence that after the wreck Bush left this country in, I will be lucky to be able to get a gallon of milk with said fifty.

I'll take you up on that, if you give me 20-1 on them choosing Obama

Show aint over til the fat lady is lying in a pool of her own blood 

[AFK]

I dunno, I don't think there is any unseating James Buchanan. 

[Seth_The_Fallen]

I am game for the bet too. I will even raise it to 200 bucks. I will laugh in your face when I get my money from you.

[Jasper]

I dunno, I don't think there is any unseating James Buchanan. 

Yeah, nothing can trump civil war.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

TGRR is right on in regards to American politics being a fucking sham, his negativism (on this topic) is unfortunately a clear view.

Comforting lies are for spineless wimps.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I really think Bush was a fine president, He made a few mistakes but who doesn't? I bet you that almost every president made at least one mistake that cost him something. I think you are just sponging up what the media is telling you. You have to look into the person's point of views and how much pressure he is under. Some of the bills that was past during Bush's term was vetoed by him and pass by the senate, it was not hid fault on some of the things he was blamed for.

I think the one and only big mistake he did was make the terrorist camps and cities a big crater then into a Walmart. But that is just my point of views on the subject of Bush's terms in office.

Holy fuck.  I DO hope you're being sarcastic.