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Started by Bebek Sincap Ratatosk, February 18, 2009, 11:31:57 PM

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Quote from: the other anonymous on April 09, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Solution would be a "view in new tab/window" button and a "download" one.

Firefox context menu has both. That's why I always use direct links: easier than two buttons.

I see it as manners on the part of the website - site gives me choice on screen I don't have to choose whether to right or left click.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous on April 09, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Solution would be a "view in new tab/window" button and a "download" one.

Firefox context menu has both. That's why I always use direct links: easier than two buttons.

I see it as manners on the part of the website - site gives me choice on screen I don't have to choose whether to right or left click.

Instead you choose right button or left button.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: the other anonymous on April 09, 2009, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous on April 09, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Solution would be a "view in new tab/window" button and a "download" one.

Firefox context menu has both. That's why I always use direct links: easier than two buttons.

I see it as manners on the part of the website - site gives me choice on screen I don't have to choose whether to right or left click.

Instead you choose right button or left button.

two clicks to save target. I'll beat you in a race  :ninja:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

the other anonymous

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 08:26:39 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous on April 09, 2009, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous on April 09, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Solution would be a "view in new tab/window" button and a "download" one.

Firefox context menu has both. That's why I always use direct links: easier than two buttons.

I see it as manners on the part of the website - site gives me choice on screen I don't have to choose whether to right or left click.

Instead you choose right button or left button.

two clicks to save target. I'll beat you in a race  :ninja:

I'm on a 700MHz Celeron. Take as many clicks as you want.  :p

Cain

New design looks good...also been pimping it via Twitter today, if you get more than the usual amount of hits, that may be why.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Ok, so I think we're all in agreement about the embedded tool. It's currently deep-sixed until we get something better. Otherwise, Cramulus and I just spent a load of time reworking the site, we dropped the tabs and all the stuff that was seriously slowing the site. Please take a look around and provide feedback here or at the site.

If you get an account you'll have access to submit articles, use private messages and the forum for Issue development etc. If you are a Issue Editor, get an account and let me know so I can promote your account and you can see the special Editor tools.

Anyone who wants to offer suggestions on styling etc please first check intermittens.theinvisiblecollege.com which is the actual site... intermittens.org is kinda stuck serving it in a frame due to some issues with the Domain provider used to register the FQDN.

Also, 000 I am aware that the urls still look ugly, once we get everything else cleaned up, I'll flip the switch and they'll look pretty, I promise ;-)


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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Cain on April 10, 2009, 06:08:41 PM
New design looks good...also been pimping it via Twitter today, if you get more than the usual amount of hits, that may be why.

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Triple Zero

Rat, don't worry about the URLs just yet. There's other issues that need tweaking more badly than making those look pretty.

also, the PDF embedding-versus-downloaddialog issue depends on the MIME-type or HTML header that's sent with the PDF file. AFAIK, if you make sure the http-response has the headers "Content-Type: application/pdf" and (I think this is the important one) "Content-Disposition: attachment;", the download dialog should be forced.

Nobody wants to view PDFs as embedded anyway, ever, and they shouldnt since I suppose you remember the Universal XSS exploit in the embedded Adobe reader about 2 years back? ;-) (which is what caused me to figure out which header triggers embedding and which a download dialog in the first place)

I assume you can fiddle with .htaccess somewhat and jam that header in there.
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Triple Zero on April 10, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Rat, don't worry about the URLs just yet. There's other issues that need tweaking more badly than making those look pretty.

also, the PDF embedding-versus-downloaddialog issue depends on the MIME-type or HTML header that's sent with the PDF file. AFAIK, if you make sure the http-response has the headers "Content-Type: application/pdf" and (I think this is the important one) "Content-Disposition: attachment;", the download dialog should be forced.

Nobody wants to view PDFs as embedded anyway, ever, and they shouldnt since I suppose you remember the Universal XSS exploit in the embedded Adobe reader about 2 years back? ;-) (which is what caused me to figure out which header triggers embedding and which a download dialog in the first place)

I assume you can fiddle with .htaccess somewhat and jam that header in there.


Well, the embedding was via a plugin, so I dropped it for now. At this point its just gonna download and open in a browser window on its own. I'll see if I can poke those headers or ... I think TinyMCE allows you to specify MIME type in its hyperlink tool... I haven't played much with it yet though.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

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Quote from: Triple Zero on April 10, 2009, 09:01:45 PM
Rat, don't worry about the URLs just yet. There's other issues that need tweaking more badly than making those look pretty.

also, the PDF embedding-versus-downloaddialog issue depends on the MIME-type or HTML header that's sent with the PDF file. AFAIK, if you make sure the http-response has the headers "Content-Type: application/pdf" and (I think this is the important one) "Content-Disposition: attachment;", the download dialog should be forced.

Nobody wants to view PDFs as embedded anyway, ever, and they shouldnt since I suppose you remember the Universal XSS exploit in the embedded Adobe reader about 2 years back? ;-) (which is what caused me to figure out which header triggers embedding and which a download dialog in the first place)

I assume you can fiddle with .htaccess somewhat and jam that header in there.

All right, I finally had a chance to poke at this. I had to switch over from lighthttpd to Apache, but I think we actually got an improvement in performance :) The .pdf extentions now rewrite to attachments and download rather than opening, or at least they do here.

Also, the URL's appear to be rewriting correctly now as well... they are visible if you go directly to intermittens.theinvisiblecollege.com, kinda stuck with that until the DNS issues get resolved.


*EDIT*: Except something just ate all the memory on the server. Site is currently down and the server is hosed :( I'll post as soon as its back.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

The server is back up with apache, forced PDF downloads and pretty URL's (SEF).

So next set of feedback anyone?
What do we need to add next?

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

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