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Another phrase for the Law of Fives.

Started by Kai, February 28, 2009, 01:18:45 AM

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Kai

Confirmation Bias.




I know, someone's already said it, but I was just reading something about it and it struck me as so right.
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Just so everyone's clear, every concept in the PD has been said before, in one holy book or another. To me, that's the point. The PD distilled and rephrased Universal Somethings. That's one of the reasons BIP came easily to me.

This isn't a diss against BMW. He just gave me a jumping off point.

To me, what I found in Discordia wasn't new knowledge, it was a better way of explaining old knowledge.


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Quote from: No Longer LMNO on February 28, 2009, 02:50:49 AM
Just so everyone's clear, every concept in the PD has been said before, in one holy book or another. To me, that's the point. The PD distilled and rephrased Universal Somethings. That's one of the reasons BIP came easily to me.

This isn't a diss against BMW. He just gave me a jumping off point.

To me, what I found in Discordia wasn't new knowledge, it was a better way of explaining old knowledge.



I couldn't agree more. 
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Jasper

Quote from: Kai on February 28, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Confirmation Bias.




I know, someone's already said it, but I was just reading something about it and it struck me as so right.

The first time I learned about cognitive bias, I thought of Law of Fives too.

Cain

There are lots of different cognitive biases.

Also, various approaches labelled constructivism could also be of interest.  I recommend Alexander Wendt.

Bu🤠ns

I'd be interested in knowing the other sources the PD draws from.  I only read it once, so i don't have much on these kinds of details.

Jasper

Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2009, 03:26:25 PM
There are lots of different cognitive biases.

Do you know if the Wiki is comprehensive?  If not, do you have a better source?

Cain

I don't know if Wikipedia's is or not, but the MIT Cognitive Sciences Encyclopedia is pretty much all that.

I was more making the point that not all cognitive biases can relate back to the Law of Fives.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Kai on February 28, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Confirmation Bias.




I know, someone's already said it, but I was just reading something about it and it struck me as so right.

I'm a bigger fan of optimism bias.  Every week, I watch my planner decide to spend huge amounts of money based on the fact that nobody will call in sick, waste time, make mistakes, do something the slow way, and on the fact that God will come down with unicorns and pink monkeys and make everything go well.

Then I make him redo the schedule, based on reality.  And I STILL wind up over budget.
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Aufenthatt

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 01, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: Kai on February 28, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Confirmation Bias.




I know, someone's already said it, but I was just reading something about it and it struck me as so right.

I'm a bigger fan of optimism bias.  Every week, I watch my planner decide to spend huge amounts of money based on the fact that nobody will call in sick, waste time, make mistakes, do something the slow way, and on the fact that God will come down with unicorns and pink monkeys and make everything go well.

Then I make him redo the schedule, based on reality.  And I STILL wind up over budget.

That's the problem with having philosophers doing the plumbing.

Idiot

Everything that the PD said, Stephen Colbert said first, at least 40 years before, more like 50.

If you don't believe me, review chapters 6 & 8.

Jasper

Quote from: smokngoat on March 14, 2009, 11:50:07 AM
Everything that the PD said, Stephen Colbert said first, at least 40 years before, more like 50.

If you don't believe me, review chapters 6 & 8.

I'm really beginning to want to smother you with a dead vole.

OPTIMUS PINECONE

Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 02, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 01, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: Kai on February 28, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Confirmation Bias.




I know, someone's already said it, but I was just reading something about it and it struck me as so right.

I'm a bigger fan of optimism bias.  Every week, I watch my planner decide to spend huge amounts of money based on the fact that nobody will call in sick, waste time, make mistakes, do something the slow way, and on the fact that God will come down with unicorns and pink monkeys and make everything go well.

Then I make him redo the schedule, based on reality.  And I STILL wind up over budget.

That's the problem with having philosophers doing the plumbing.

     'Cuz they're all carpenters.
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Quote from: Felix on March 23, 2009, 06:29:03 AM
Quote from: smokngoat on March 14, 2009, 11:50:07 AM
Everything that the PD said, Stephen Colbert said first, at least 40 years before, more like 50.

If you don't believe me, review chapters 6 & 8.

I'm really beginning to want to smother you with a dead vole.

I have no opinion on smokngoat, one way or the other but I really am interested in seeing the dead vole - thing done.

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Quote from: OPTIMUS PINECONE on March 23, 2009, 07:09:25 AM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 02, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 01, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: Kai on February 28, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Confirmation Bias.




I know, someone's already said it, but I was just reading something about it and it struck me as so right.

I'm a bigger fan of optimism bias.  Every week, I watch my planner decide to spend huge amounts of money based on the fact that nobody will call in sick, waste time, make mistakes, do something the slow way, and on the fact that God will come down with unicorns and pink monkeys and make everything go well.

Then I make him redo the schedule, based on reality.  And I STILL wind up over budget.

That's the problem with having philosophers doing the plumbing.

     'Cuz they're all carpenters.

I will take that as a Jesus joke.