Alan Moore on superheroes, and other things

[MrFrizzleFry]

3 pages about Alan Moore and no Glycon jokes?

[Tempest Virago]

3 pages about Alan Moore and no Glycon jokes?

Sorry, I thought it was implied.

[hooplala]

Moore has been ahead of the times throughout his career.  And Lost Girls was NOT SHIT it is erotica for an audience that is not homophobic or dogmatically straight.  It 'the Lost Girls' opens up new doors and I'm going to be interested to see what emerges.

OK sorry, for that all, I'll put the soap box away now
                                                                      z_m

I am neither homophobic nor "dogmatically straight", and it's patently ridiculous for you to accuse me of that based simply on the fact that I don't like a comic book you like. I don't have a problem with the lesbian aspect of Lost Girls. I can break out my dykey credentials if I have to.

Yeah, I find some of it offensive, but it's not the lesbian sex, it's the rampant pedophilia. I guess it makes me "homophobic" to think making a character who fucks little boys and girls who are possibly his children sympathetic. Every character in the book seems to think fucking little kids is A-Okay. Go ahead, call me a prude if you will, but I don't like reading about pedos. Not to malign his character, but  I really don't know why Alan Moore needs rape, pedophilia and elderly skeezes fucking young girls in all of his works.

But that's not really why I dislike it. I dislike it mainly because I really do think he's trying way too hard to do the whole "erotica for intellectuals" thing and it comes off as pretentious and trying too hard. Plus it's just plain not as interesting as it thinks it is.

It's fantasy.  Maybe not your preferred flavour of fantasy, but still fantasy.  No minors were harmed during the creation of said comic.  You're starting to sound like the people pissed off that Larry Welz had the nerve to portray Cherry Poptart's younger sister.  It's a comic book, not a factual entity.  People should be able to explore taboo ideas in fictional formats.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Moore has been ahead of the times throughout his career.  And Lost Girls was NOT SHIT it is erotica for an audience that is not homophobic or dogmatically straight.  It 'the Lost Girls' opens up new doors and I'm going to be interested to see what emerges.

OK sorry, for that all, I'll put the soap box away now
                                                                      z_m

I am neither homophobic nor "dogmatically straight", and it's patently ridiculous for you to accuse me of that based simply on the fact that I don't like a comic book you like. I don't have a problem with the lesbian aspect of Lost Girls. I can break out my dykey credentials if I have to.

Yeah, I find some of it offensive, but it's not the lesbian sex, it's the rampant pedophilia. I guess it makes me "homophobic" to think making a character who fucks little boys and girls who are possibly his children sympathetic. Every character in the book seems to think fucking little kids is A-Okay. Go ahead, call me a prude if you will, but I don't like reading about pedos. Not to malign his character, but  I really don't know why Alan Moore needs rape, pedophilia and elderly skeezes fucking young girls in all of his works.

But that's not really why I dislike it. I dislike it mainly because I really do think he's trying way too hard to do the whole "erotica for intellectuals" thing and it comes off as pretentious and trying too hard. Plus it's just plain not as interesting as it thinks it is.

It's fantasy.  Maybe not your preferred flavour of fantasy, but still fantasy.  No minors were harmed during the creation of said comic.  You're starting to sound like the people pissed off that Larry Welz had the nerve to portray Cherry Poptart's younger sister.  It's a comic book, not a factual entity.  People should be able to explore taboo ideas in fictional formats.

...

So fictional pedo is ok?

[LMNO]

Please to see HP slashfic.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Please to see HP slashfic.

ROFL

slashfic is never OK... but that has more to do with my criteria for writing that any taboo breaking

[LMNO]

Please see DeSade.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Please see DeSade.

Well, for me personally, I think breaking taboos in fiction, literature and from a philosophical position is a fine thing. Mostly cause I like to see 'open minds' squirm when they see it. But then, that's one of the things I like about Uncle BadTouch. 

[hooplala]

Moore has been ahead of the times throughout his career.  And Lost Girls was NOT SHIT it is erotica for an audience that is not homophobic or dogmatically straight.  It 'the Lost Girls' opens up new doors and I'm going to be interested to see what emerges.

OK sorry, for that all, I'll put the soap box away now
                                                                      z_m

I am neither homophobic nor "dogmatically straight", and it's patently ridiculous for you to accuse me of that based simply on the fact that I don't like a comic book you like. I don't have a problem with the lesbian aspect of Lost Girls. I can break out my dykey credentials if I have to.

Yeah, I find some of it offensive, but it's not the lesbian sex, it's the rampant pedophilia. I guess it makes me "homophobic" to think making a character who fucks little boys and girls who are possibly his children sympathetic. Every character in the book seems to think fucking little kids is A-Okay. Go ahead, call me a prude if you will, but I don't like reading about pedos. Not to malign his character, but  I really don't know why Alan Moore needs rape, pedophilia and elderly skeezes fucking young girls in all of his works.

But that's not really why I dislike it. I dislike it mainly because I really do think he's trying way too hard to do the whole "erotica for intellectuals" thing and it comes off as pretentious and trying too hard. Plus it's just plain not as interesting as it thinks it is.

It's fantasy.  Maybe not your preferred flavour of fantasy, but still fantasy.  No minors were harmed during the creation of said comic.  You're starting to sound like the people pissed off that Larry Welz had the nerve to portray Cherry Poptart's younger sister.  It's a comic book, not a factual entity.  People should be able to explore taboo ideas in fictional formats.

...

So fictional pedo is ok?

I don't see why not.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Moore has been ahead of the times throughout his career.  And Lost Girls was NOT SHIT it is erotica for an audience that is not homophobic or dogmatically straight.  It 'the Lost Girls' opens up new doors and I'm going to be interested to see what emerges.

OK sorry, for that all, I'll put the soap box away now
                                                                      z_m

I am neither homophobic nor "dogmatically straight", and it's patently ridiculous for you to accuse me of that based simply on the fact that I don't like a comic book you like. I don't have a problem with the lesbian aspect of Lost Girls. I can break out my dykey credentials if I have to.

Yeah, I find some of it offensive, but it's not the lesbian sex, it's the rampant pedophilia. I guess it makes me "homophobic" to think making a character who fucks little boys and girls who are possibly his children sympathetic. Every character in the book seems to think fucking little kids is A-Okay. Go ahead, call me a prude if you will, but I don't like reading about pedos. Not to malign his character, but  I really don't know why Alan Moore needs rape, pedophilia and elderly skeezes fucking young girls in all of his works.

But that's not really why I dislike it. I dislike it mainly because I really do think he's trying way too hard to do the whole "erotica for intellectuals" thing and it comes off as pretentious and trying too hard. Plus it's just plain not as interesting as it thinks it is.

It's fantasy.  Maybe not your preferred flavour of fantasy, but still fantasy.  No minors were harmed during the creation of said comic.  You're starting to sound like the people pissed off that Larry Welz had the nerve to portray Cherry Poptart's younger sister.  It's a comic book, not a factual entity.  People should be able to explore taboo ideas in fictional formats.

...

So fictional pedo is ok?

I don't see why not.

Just checking... its a hot button issue around here

[hooplala]

I'm well aware, and let me make it clear that I am not interested in reading fiction about peds, I simply believe in freedom of speech COMPLETELY.  And thats what it boils down to.  I am against kiddie porn and actual pedophilia because there are ACTUAL children involved.  In fiction, there isn't.  As distasteful as it is for me or someone else, nobody is actually harmed.

And don't respond with anything along the lines of "it gives the peds fuel for their sick craft", because I won't be responding to it.  Its bullshit. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I'm well aware, and let me make it clear that I am not interested in reading fiction about peds, I simply believe in freedom of speech COMPLETELY.  And thats what it boils down to.  I am against kiddie porn and actual pedophilia because there are ACTUAL children involved.  In fiction, there isn't.  As distasteful as it is for me or someone else, nobody is actually harmed.

And don't respond with anything along the lines of "it gives the peds fuel for their sick craft", because I won't be responding to it.  Its bullshit. 

No disagreement here, I concur with your position 100%

[Tempest Virago]

Moore has been ahead of the times throughout his career.  And Lost Girls was NOT SHIT it is erotica for an audience that is not homophobic or dogmatically straight.  It 'the Lost Girls' opens up new doors and I'm going to be interested to see what emerges.

OK sorry, for that all, I'll put the soap box away now
                                                                      z_m

I am neither homophobic nor "dogmatically straight", and it's patently ridiculous for you to accuse me of that based simply on the fact that I don't like a comic book you like. I don't have a problem with the lesbian aspect of Lost Girls. I can break out my dykey credentials if I have to.

Yeah, I find some of it offensive, but it's not the lesbian sex, it's the rampant pedophilia. I guess it makes me "homophobic" to think making a character who fucks little boys and girls who are possibly his children sympathetic. Every character in the book seems to think fucking little kids is A-Okay. Go ahead, call me a prude if you will, but I don't like reading about pedos. Not to malign his character, but  I really don't know why Alan Moore needs rape, pedophilia and elderly skeezes fucking young girls in all of his works.

But that's not really why I dislike it. I dislike it mainly because I really do think he's trying way too hard to do the whole "erotica for intellectuals" thing and it comes off as pretentious and trying too hard. Plus it's just plain not as interesting as it thinks it is.

It's fantasy.  Maybe not your preferred flavour of fantasy, but still fantasy.  No minors were harmed during the creation of said comic.  You're starting to sound like the people pissed off that Larry Welz had the nerve to portray Cherry Poptart's younger sister.  It's a comic book, not a factual entity.  People should be able to explore taboo ideas in fictional formats.

I don't think it's morally wrong, or that it should be banned, or that people shouldn't read it. I just have no personal interest in reading it, and think it was done mostly for the sake of being edgy.

[hooplala]

Why do people always say that about art they don't personally like?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Why do people always say that about art they don't personally like?

I think it has to do with Brick Walls and Iron Bars...