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Started by P3nT4gR4m, March 09, 2009, 07:59:50 PM

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Nigels fread in Or Kill Me got me thinking - wouldn't it be funny and potentially flamefesty to put our cards on the table and define what we really believe. So I'll set the ball rolling...

"God" to me is a point of view. Verthaine wrote an amazing piece (iirc it made an intermittens) which, essentially boiled down to the fact that human consciousness was an emergent property of the universe. That we, in essence, were the universe looking at itself. That's god to me. God is the point of view you have when you are trully aware of this.

God is what created the ineffable part of my psyche that experiences the whole shooting match from "my" point of view. It's the cumulation of billions of years of big-bang aftermath. Added to that the billions of years of the cumulative effect of the machinery of evolution. Suddenly, and for no good reason, a bunch of self replicating genetic mulch closed it's eyes and marvelled at the sheer awesomeness of it's existence.

God is the staggeringly convoluted and strangled path that led to something, which the law of averages declares is so highly unlikely it's practically impossible, taking place. But it did take place. Ultimately it's one huge big chain of events and, at the point where you join the dots and see yourself in this context, you are face to face with god.

Do I believe in god?

Belief doesn't even enter into it.

and neither does faith.

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God is what I see in anything outside or inside of me that is worth encouraging, developing, or respecting.  Sort of a social / naturalistic sense of arete / Tao.  From my observation, I've yet to see anything else worth calling "God".
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I don't know... but I occasionally invoke them anyway.

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

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"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cainad (dec.)

God is an inherently abstract and large-scale idea that most humans seem to run into at some point in their lives.

What no one realizes is that it's an idea with a will of its own, which takes a gleeful pleasure in our consistent failures to verbally compress it into something universally understandable and agreed upon.


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Kai

God is the creative universal metaforce. God is emergence. It is not personal and it does not answer prayers. It is not divine, or real in any physical sense.
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Cain

"The greatest thing, of which nothing greater can be concieved of."

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Cain on March 09, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
"The greatest thing, of which nothing greater can be concieved of."

conceived by man? or the greater thing?
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

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Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 09, 2009, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 09, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
"The greatest thing, of which nothing greater can be concieved of."

conceived by man? or the greater thing?

That depends on how good the Greatest Thing is a conceiving I guess. One might suppose it would be the 'greatest' at conceiving, thus being able to conceive of something greater than 'the greatest thing that humans can conceive of'. Unless he's really, really egotistical...
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

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"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 09, 2009, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 09, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
"The greatest thing, of which nothing greater can be concieved of."

conceived by man? or the greater thing?

Yes.

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God is a hallucination which humans are genetically predisposed towards as an escape route from the brute seriousness of reality.
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Quote from: Anomalous on March 09, 2009, 09:12:12 PM
God is a hallucination which humans are genetically predisposed towards as an escape route from the brute seriousness of reality.

You believe this?

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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 09, 2009, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: Anomalous on March 09, 2009, 09:12:12 PM
God is a hallucination which humans are genetically predisposed towards as an escape route from the brute seriousness of reality.

You believe this?

It's an idea I entertain more often than others.

For the purposes of discussion, let's say I do.

Also, if god is ineffable shouldn't you just STFU about it like Taoists about the Tao?
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