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Started by OPTIMUS PINECONE, March 13, 2009, 05:05:36 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#45
March 15, 2009, 06:34:40 AM
Quote from: Pope Lecherous on March 15, 2009, 04:35:27 AM
Skillfull dodge.  It's messed up that a false sense of privacy had been violated, but if you ain't ready to defend your vote by whatever means necessary DON'T vote.  Go be the frightened citizen of some other nation where the winner has been decided in advance.  Those people have courage and give meaning to the vote. 

Bullshit.  A non-secret vote has NO advantages.  None. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#46
March 15, 2009, 06:37:01 AM
Quote from: Pope Lecherous on March 15, 2009, 03:13:06 AM
The threat of violence against the "homophobes" in support of prop 8.

Why the quotes?  If you support proposition 8, you're a homophobe.  Dress it up with things like "definitions of marriage", etc, all you like.  You aren't fooling anyone.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#47
March 15, 2009, 06:38:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 14, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
Nobody ever said we live in an "open" society. There are a lot of areas where laws protect our privacy. I think it's really interesting that private purchases are protected by confidentiality laws, but donations aren't.

Private purchases don't lead to the wholesale purchase of government, like anonymous political donations would.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#48
March 15, 2009, 06:41:32 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 14, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
To those of you who think this harassment is acceptable because you find the woman's views reprehensible... what the fuck is wrong with you? You're as disgusting as the people who think it's OK to send hate mail to queers who try to adopt. I'm sorry, condoning harassment because you don't agree with the political views of the person being harassed is fucking sick.

Let's look at this another way:  This woman is out to ruin the private lives of about 10% of the population, based on hate and/or fear alone.

While I don't condone anything further, this woman's hurt feelings don't stack up to the rights of one person, let alone 30 million or so.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#49
March 15, 2009, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 14, 2009, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: Requia on March 14, 2009, 03:53:31 AM
Her views are that I'm not a person.  Just saying.

Oh, that's a line of reactionary hyperbole if I ever read one. She is against gay marriage, therefore she doesn't view gays as human beings? That's a far stretch. I'm opposed to polygamy, does that mean I don't consider polyamorous people to be human beings?


I don't think it's hyperbole.  Filthy assistant at work, on the subject of Gay rights:  "Who cares?  They're just fags."
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#50
March 15, 2009, 06:43:28 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 14, 2009, 05:00:59 PM
By donating to prop 8?

IIRC, she was an active campaigner.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#51
March 15, 2009, 06:47:04 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2009, 05:13:57 PM
If you believe marriage is some ancient traditional deal between a man and a woman of opposite sexes then, IMO, you're perfectly entitled to think gay marriage is out of line without, necessarily, being against gay people.

If someone doesn't approve of Gay marriage, then they shouldn't enter into one.  They have no business stomping on the rights of others.  I have exactly as little patience for them as I have for the screwheads who decided listening to our phone calls was a good idea, or that ignoring habeas corpus was the fucking cat's ass.  There is no difference at all, in principle, between Alberto Gonzales and someone who supports odious shit like prop 8.  They are both opposed to individual liberty.

TGRR,
Making Thomas Paine look reasonable since the Johnson Administration.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#52
March 15, 2009, 06:48:01 AM
Quote from: fomenter on March 14, 2009, 06:02:12 PM
voting against prop 8 is not a vote against civil unions, how do you know she doesn't vote yes for, or support civil unions in other ways?

"Separate but equal" is garbage.  If they were equal, you wouldn't need another name for the concept.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

fomenter

#53
March 15, 2009, 06:58:07 AM
i happen to support civil unions, i was surprised to find out (during the prop8 discussions) that the civil unions don't give all the same rights to gay couples, i  had been under the impression till then that they did, and that giving equal rights was the whole point of granting civil unions..
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp

The Good Reverend Roger

#54
March 15, 2009, 07:00:22 AM
Quote from: fomenter on March 15, 2009, 06:58:07 AM
i happen to support civil unions, i was surprised to find out (during the prop8 discussions) that the civil unions don't give all the same rights to gay couples, i  had been under the impression till then that they did, and that giving equal rights was the whole point of granting civil unions..

For future reference:  If you need a new name for the same rights, then the rights aren't really the same, are they?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

fomenter

#55
March 15, 2009, 07:05:11 AM
civil unions are new? i thought heterosexual couples who had been living together as husband and wife for 7 or more years without a marriage were considered by law to have a civil union? from long before the law was applied to gay couples?
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp

The Good Reverend Roger

#56
March 15, 2009, 07:16:22 AM
Quote from: fomenter on March 15, 2009, 07:05:11 AM
civil unions are new? i thought heterosexual couples who had been living together as husband and wife for 7 or more years without a marriage were considered by law to have a civil union? from long before the law was applied to gay couples?

No, that's "common law marriage".  A very different thing.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

fomenter

#57
March 15, 2009, 07:28:01 AM
POP (the sound of gluteal cranial inversion reversing..) misunderstood civil union as the same thing, that it was supposed to be granting the same rights to gays as common law marriage granted to strait couples a legal "non religious" recognition of rights..
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp

The Good Reverend Roger

#58
March 15, 2009, 07:30:51 AM
Quote from: fomenter on March 15, 2009, 07:28:01 AM
POP (the sound of gluteal cranial inversion reversing..) misunderstood civil union as the same thing, that it was supposed to be granting the same rights to gays as common law marriage granted to strait couples a legal "non religious" recognition of rights..

There is no "religious" recognition of marriage.  A Justice of the Peace can marry a couple with precisely the same legal standing as a minister can.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

fomenter

#59
March 15, 2009, 07:49:13 AM Last Edit: March 15, 2009, 07:59:41 AM by fomenter
QuotePOP (the sound of gluteal cranial inversion reversing..)

in my confused understanding, since the preservation of marriage is being promoted by religious nuts who don't accept gay marriage, the civil union was an equivalent to (same as) a justice of the piece marriage/common law marriage, to grant equal rights to gays.. silly me i guess 

edit to add - it was my understanding that the civil union was supposed to grant every right and be the same as marriage in every way, except for the right to use the word marriage on the legal documents, since it pissed off religious people
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp
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