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Started by Faithless, March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM

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Faithless

Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it, all we can do is make it inhospitable for ourselves and for other species. When we fuck it up thoroughly enough, we die back and the planet keeps on spinning. All these campaigns about "being kind to the planet" and "Protecting the Earth" are ridiculous simply because in a momentary geological shrug, our civilizations will be rendered moot and survivors will be starting from scratch. Environmentalism is great, but let's be clear on whose environment we're protecting; we're selfish bastards.
Few see things this way, and you are undoubtedly correct. If we mess up too bad, we will all die, but the Earth will be fine, unless of course we figure out a way to kill it along with ourselves. Imagine if we could develope antimatter? THEN we could take this little rock out with us.
Oh, sonovabitch.

Faithless

Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
I hope that one day, we'll met alien species which also carries around a collective guilt for nuking their planet's ecosystems.

Would we still feel guilty if we joined a spage-age federation of starfaring species, all of which had eradicated their home planet during their species' development?

Maybe aliens accept that on a long enough timeline, any ecosystem bearing intelligent life is doomed.
The scary part is that you are correct, life comes at a cost. Intelligence, even more so.
Oh, sonovabitch.

Pope Lecherous

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
Quote from: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

We can't?

And after all that planning.

Now what the FUCK am I gonna do with all these radioactive gorillas?

What am i going to do with my DEEElux hadRON KOlider now?

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

Sorry, man, but at this point all we have are megalomaniacal fantasies, like "what if we developed antimatter".

As a species, we like to imagine that we are so intelligent that our own self-destructive competitive urges could take out the entire planet. We essentially base these on nothing other than the fact that we can visualize the planet, circling in the solar system, in the galaxy, in the universe. This amount of understanding makes us feel powerful, yet it stands for nothing. It stands for enough self-awareness to realize that we are being destructive, without enough self-awareness to understand that we are being destructive to ourselves, and that the planet doesn't care, nor do we have the power we like to futilely imagine we hold to destroy the planet ourselves.

People invented the concept of gods in order to imagine ourselves as gods. The only people who evolved past that to the point of recognizing the gods as elemental forces we cannot overcome have been overcome by the megalomaniac faction. This is manifest destiny; the stupid overpowering the insightful. This is how we can understand that might does not make right.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."