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The Sacred Chao Te Ching

Started by Cramulus, April 13, 2009, 05:30:19 PM

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LMNO

Don't you hate it when you piss someone off when you didn't even mean to? 

Well, it's weirder when you thought you were complimenting them.

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RE: The Sacred Chao Te Ching:

I wish i had something to say to change it.  It still has a rawness about it that I'm not necessarily saying is a bad thing. I almost wonder if really doing anything more with it would take away from it's spontaneity.

some parts might be a little long perhaps, but that's only if you're going for just simple (like some of the translations). 

So i wonder if it really needs anything more.   

Cramulus

I took a crack at Chapter 67, which I think needs work.

I got this far:

QuoteEverybody thinks Discordia is just a big joke. They do not think it deserves serious consideration. This is what makes gives it its power - it cannot become a dogma and it welcomes no fanatics.

There are three treasures I keep in my heart:

and then in the Tao Te Ching they list the three treasures, which are compassion, frugality, and humility.



I've been trying to figure out what the three treasures of Discordia are, but I might be going about it the wrong way.

Laughter and Uncertainty seem to be two big ones. From laughter comes the ability to let go (?). From uncertainty comes certainty.

     I think I'm thinking about the Tao Te Ching chapter too literally.



Marked for Attention:

Chapters 71, 72, 78, 81

Roaring Biscuit!

Quote from: Cramulus on May 17, 2009, 02:04:34 PM

QuoteEverybody thinks Discordia is just a big joke. They do not think it deserves serious consideration. This is what gives it its power - it cannot become a dogma and it welcomes no fanatics.

There are three treasures I keep in my heart:

and then in the Tao Te Ching they list the three treasures, which are compassion, frugality, and humility.



I've been trying to figure out what the three treasures of Discordia are, but I might be going about it the wrong way.

Laughter and Uncertainty seem to be two big ones. From laughter comes the ability to let go (?). From uncertainty comes certainty.

fixed a little bit in 67 there, also:

how about laughter, uncertaintity and independence/autonomy?

from laughter comes the ability to fall (non-literally obv.) and the ability to rise from the ashes with a grin on your face.

From uncertainty comes the ability to decide and not let the decision be made for you.

from independence comes the ability to seek freedom.

I haven't actually read the original chapter, this is just what I thought when I read your post.  Hope it were helpful.

x

LMNO

#274
In regards to 71 --  Check out this translation of the TTC:

To know that you do not know is the best.
To think you know when you do not is a disease.
Recognizing this disease as a disease is to be free of it.
The wise are free of disease,
because they recognize the disease as a disease.
Therefore they are free of disease.


That's pretty damn close to pure Discordian.

LMNO

CH 71:

It is wise to admit ignorance.
Those that claim to know everything will fail.
Those who are willing to accept new information
are able to adapt to whatever situation they are in.
Because they are willing to acknowledge failure.
they will not fail.

Cramulus


LMNO


Cramulus

72

When people disobey authority
another authority will descend.
When people lack a sense of awe
they cannot see what's awesome.
Do not restrict people's freedoms,
their time or space continuum.
If you act like a spag, you will be treated like a spag.

Therefore the wise spag is not an actor.

Cramulus

#279
67

Everybody thinks Discordia is just a big joke. They do not think it deserves serious consideration. This is what gives it its power.

Discordia cannot become a dogma and it welcomes no fanatics.

There are three treasures I keep in my heart:

Uncertainty, Freedom, and Laughter

From uncertainty comes certainty.
From freedom comes direction.
From laughter comes carelessness.

Certainty untempered by doubt,
direction without freedom,
carelessness without humor:

These things are heavy like grayface's luggage.

LMNO

Quote from: Cramulus on May 18, 2009, 03:17:48 PM
72

When people disobey authority
another authority will descend.
When people lack a sense of awe
they cannot see what's awesome.
Do not restrict people's freedoms,
their time or space continuum.
If you act like a spag, you will be treated like a spag.

Therefore the wise spag is not an actor.

I'd amend that to show that open, obvious defiance against Authority will increase Authority, but the Wise Spags simply find ways Around it.

Like,

When people openly disobey Authority,
another Authority will descend.
The wise spags go around, not against.
When people lack a sense of awe
they cannot see what's awesome.
Do not restrict people's freedoms,
their time or space continuum.
If you act like a spag, you will be treated like a spag.

Therefore the wise spag acts, but is not an actor.

Cramulus


LMNO

Throwing up on the Wiki.


{edit: Beat me to it}

Cramulus


LMNO

Quote from: Cramulus on May 18, 2009, 03:25:48 PM
67

Everybody thinks Discordia is just a big joke. They do not think it deserves serious consideration. This is what gives it its power.

Discordia cannot become a dogma and it welcomes no fanatics.

There are three treasures I keep in my heart:

Uncertainty, Freedom, and Laughter

From uncertainty comes certainty.
From freedom comes direction.
From laughter comes carelessness.

Certainty untempered by doubt,
direction without freedom,
carelessness without humor:

These things are heavy like grayface's luggage.

Instead of "From___comes___", what do you think about "____is contained by___"

Like,

Uncertainty is countered by certainty.
Freedom is constrained by direction.
Laughter is broken by carelessness.