BIP revamp?

[LMNO]

I might be looking at this the wrong way, but it seems to me that while the original pamphlet might have seemed propgagandistic, your version looks like something scribbled in math class after watching The Wall the previous night.

If that was your intention, well, congrats.

[Roaring Biscuit!]

I might be looking at this the wrong way, but it seems to me that while the original pamphlet might have seemed propgagandistic, your version looks like something scribbled in math class after watching The Wall the previous night.

If that was your intention, well, congrats.

previous post:  not really sure of intention as yet, will dfinitely be refined tho..

also

[LMNO]

This is pretty cool.

[Reginald Ret]

try to find a place for this piece of art by payne. Im not entirely sure if he wants it in here so ask him before using it.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=12110.0


Its also in intermittens 1.

[Roaring Biscuit!]

That is very cool piece, strong imagery, definitely something I can work with   Though, if he'd be permitting, I may take that bit out about forums...  I wasn't such a fan of that, or at least I don't feel it fit so well with the rest of it.

Also









Thats front page, page 3 (the other page 3 is now page 2), page 4 and 5

Edd

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I like the idea of illustrating it, but the whole rewriting-other-people's-work thing strikes me as weird.

[East Coast Hustle]

You are welcome to use my piece provided credit is given, but not to alter the content in any way.

[fomenter]

I like the idea of illustrating it, but the whole rewriting-other-people's-work thing strikes me as weird.

iawt

there is a lot of gsp out there that is unwritten unfinished and unillustrated. i like the energy you have to put into projects
if you want to look at unfinished gsp stuff http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19810.0 is one, there are more around that others can point you at...

[The Good Reverend Roger]

None of my shit gets rewritten.

It can be used as is, with credit, or not at all.

TGRR,
Not a fan of Copyleft.

[Requia ☣]

That is Copyleft, or a form of it.

[Roaring Biscuit!]

None of my shit gets rewritten.

It can be used as is, with credit, or not at all.

TGRR,
Not a fan of Copyleft.

I was warned

I've actually done no "rewriting" as such thus far, only a few pieces that I edited down to what I considered key points.

@East Coast Hustle:  which pieces are yours?  I'll be sure to keep them intact if they are used.

Mostly I'm just sorta, expanding on the ideas in my own random-string-of-thoughts type way.

Any feedback on the content thus far?

Edd

[AFK]

editing down, in my mind, IS a form of rewriting.

[Triple Zero]

1. I like it! in fact, I think I *love* it. I wouldnt call it a replacement or anything of the BIP, but "just another way of presenting it", perhaps (since it has less text and more pics) sort of like a bite-sized intro to the BIP for people with short attention spans.

2. The illustrations and original markup/layout definitely make it more interesting and IMO more enticing to take a further look at. However, I would try to stay away a bit from the dark/moody/gloomy/"emo" feeling and style. This is something the BIP is already suffering criticisms from, while it's not (specifically) intended that way. I think the illustrations are way cool like this, so perhaps you can "brighten them up", by adding some bright pastel colours or something. I'm thinking you could waterpaint some bright boxes on paper, scan that, and overlay them (multiply layer in Photoshop/GIMP), either on illustrations or the blocks of text themselves. I've seen it done with some experimental cartoons, and it looks really cool.

3. be careful about remixing or editing some people's work. while I personally don't think it's weird, but rather a very positive and creative embrace of our postmodern times, not getting the author's permission before publishing (spreading) is a bad idea and will sow bad seeds.
In general (not just for PD.com), I think it would be best to email (or PM) the author and ask them "I'd like to use your piece, would you mind if I include just these and these paragraphs instead of the entire text?", and then from there work with them rather than carelessly grabbing it.

[Roaring Biscuit!]

1. I like it! in fact, I think I *love* it. I wouldnt call it a replacement or anything of the BIP, but "just another way of presenting it", perhaps (since it has less text and more pics) sort of like a bite-sized intro to the BIP for people with short attention spans.

Yay!

2. The illustrations and original markup/layout definitely make it more interesting and IMO more enticing to take a further look at. However, I would try to stay away a bit from the dark/moody/gloomy/"emo" feeling and style. This is something the BIP is already suffering criticisms from, while it's not (specifically) intended that way. I think the illustrations are way cool like this, so perhaps you can "brighten them up", by adding some bright pastel colours or something. I'm thinking you could waterpaint some bright boxes on paper, scan that, and overlay them (multiply layer in Photoshop/GIMP), either on illustrations or the blocks of text themselves. I've seen it done with some experimental cartoons, and it looks really cool.

I'd like to keep it largely monotone, that may make it seem a bit emo, but I'm going to see if I can find my book on Taoist art and see if I can work in some happier blackandwhite things e.g.

  not b&w but... i can do happy things (that was for a local band...)

3. be careful about remixing or editing some people's work. while I personally don't think it's weird, but rather a very positive and creative embrace of our postmodern times, not getting the author's permission before publishing (spreading) is a bad idea and will sow bad seeds.
In general (not just for PD.com), I think it would be best to email (or PM) the author and ask them "I'd like to use your piece, would you mind if I include just these and these paragraphs instead of the entire text?", and then from there work with them rather than carelessly grabbing it.

Definitely, from now on I'm gonna either leave work either as is (in its entirety) with my contribution being the artwork, or write something original.

Thanks for the feedback 

Edd

[Honey]

1. I like it! in fact, I think I *love* it. I wouldnt call it a replacement or anything of the BIP, but "just another way of presenting it", perhaps (since it has less text and more pics) sort of like a bite-sized intro to the BIP for people with short attention spans.

2. The illustrations and original markup/layout definitely make it more interesting and IMO more enticing to take a further look at. However, I would try to stay away a bit from the dark/moody/gloomy/"emo" feeling and style. This is something the BIP is already suffering criticisms from, while it's not (specifically) intended that way. I think the illustrations are way cool like this, so perhaps you can "brighten them up", by adding some bright pastel colours or something. I'm thinking you could waterpaint some bright boxes on paper, scan that, and overlay them (multiply layer in Photoshop/GIMP), either on illustrations or the blocks of text themselves. I've seen it done with some experimental cartoons, and it looks really cool.

3. be careful about remixing or editing some people's work. while I personally don't think it's weird, but rather a very positive and creative embrace of our postmodern times, not getting the author's permission before publishing (spreading) is a bad idea and will sow bad seeds.
In general (not just for PD.com), I think it would be best to email (or PM) the author and ask them "I'd like to use your piece, would you mind if I include just these and these paragraphs instead of the entire text?", and then from there work with them rather than carelessly grabbing it.

If English was my first language I woulda said something like this ^^^ (   Dammit English IS my first language & I uh well ... still a bit flustered, rattled even & uh ... dammit!)

TSosBR!:  I like the artwork & the thoughtprocess!  Respect!

Triple Zero:  Extremely well said!

Please note:  I still stand in wonder at original BIP (especially writing part)  Kudos!