George Tiller Killed

[Pariah]

I'm looking forward to Bill O' Reilly looking shocked and confused how his constant personal attacks and  hate inciting speech against George Tiller would lead to his murder.
Surprising how things work like that

[P3nT4gR4m]

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone.

You serious? I can't imagine anyone reading the OT, believing it as literally true and not being predisposed to killing the infidels. Yahweh was a fucking textbook psychopath ffs!

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone.

You serious? I can't imagine anyone reading the OT, believing it as literally true and not being predisposed to killing the infidels. Yahweh was a fucking textbook psychopath ffs!

Finish the quote: Random acts of violence, perpetrated by a vigilante is not supported anywhere, even in the most violent and disturbing bits of the Bible.

In every case of violence that was OK with YHVH, it was under his direction, or at least under the direction of whatever spag he put in charge. YHVH was not one for independent thinkers/actors. In fact, cases where someone did something then said "But, I thought God would like it" usually got their asses killed.

YHVH was a psychopath, but he was a controlling psychopath.

Besides, if one is a Christian, they accept the New Covenant, not the Law Covenant and without the Law covenant there is no standard to judge another against (Judge not ...). The Bible is not a good book, but you have to warp things quite a bit to get support for this kind of bullshit.

[Cramulus]

I'm looking forward to Bill O' Reilly looking shocked and confused how his constant personal attacks and  hate inciting speech against George Tiller would lead to his murder.
Surprising how things work like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuXrBxHbFAk
there's the clip of his response


the whole segment is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq0Au-QRvGc
(poor video quality!)

[Cain]

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone.

You serious? I can't imagine anyone reading the OT, believing it as literally true and not being predisposed to killing the infidels. Yahweh was a fucking textbook psychopath ffs!

Finish the quote: Random acts of violence, perpetrated by a vigilante is not supported anywhere, even in the most violent and disturbing bits of the Bible.

In every case of violence that was OK with YHVH, it was under his direction, or at least under the direction of whatever spag he put in charge. YHVH was not one for independent thinkers/actors. In fact, cases where someone did something then said "But, I thought God would like it" usually got their asses killed.

YHVH was a psychopath, but he was a controlling psychopath.

Besides, if one is a Christian, they accept the New Covenant, not the Law Covenant and without the Law covenant there is no standard to judge another against (Judge not ...). The Bible is not a good book, but you have to warp things quite a bit to get support for this kind of bullshit.

Well, YHVH does seem to take his time in punishing people who do such things.  I mean, I would take that as tacit support, if I were a fundamentalist.  And everyone knows the secular Federal government is an arm of Satan and so getting arrested and tried and convicted and ass-raped in prison doesn't count.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone.

You serious? I can't imagine anyone reading the OT, believing it as literally true and not being predisposed to killing the infidels. Yahweh was a fucking textbook psychopath ffs!

Finish the quote: Random acts of violence, perpetrated by a vigilante is not supported anywhere, even in the most violent and disturbing bits of the Bible.

In every case of violence that was OK with YHVH, it was under his direction, or at least under the direction of whatever spag he put in charge. YHVH was not one for independent thinkers/actors. In fact, cases where someone did something then said "But, I thought God would like it" usually got their asses killed.

YHVH was a psychopath, but he was a controlling psychopath.

Besides, if one is a Christian, they accept the New Covenant, not the Law Covenant and without the Law covenant there is no standard to judge another against (Judge not ...). The Bible is not a good book, but you have to warp things quite a bit to get support for this kind of bullshit.

Well, YHVH does seem to take his time in punishing people who do such things.  I mean, I would take that as tacit support, if I were a fundamentalist.  And everyone knows the secular Federal government is an arm of Satan and so getting arrested and tried and convicted and ass-raped in prison doesn't count.

Well, YHVH hasn't punished anyone since Ananias and Saphira. Under the 'new covenant' with Jesus that sort of direct punishment went away for the most part. YHVH could judge Jews immediately, because they were all in contract with him via the Moasic Law. With the New Covenant, Jesus death was supposed to 'cover over' the sins of his followers so that they would not be judged until Judgment Day. Indeed, the Christians that claimed Tiller should die, those that rejoiced because he 'went to hell', according to the Covenant, have signed their own death warrant. If they as a sinful human pass judgment on another sinful human, rather than forgiving them... then God can (and will) do the same to them. (See Jesus parable of the Debtors).

The Bible is a ridiculous book, but vigilante judgment and execution is a direct ticket to the Left side of God, and a one way drop into the furnace with the weeds and the goats.

Of course, most of the evangelical movement is based on insanity rather than scripture, so the point it likely moot.

[Iason Ouabache]

US journalist and expert on the far-right David Neiwert's co-writer, Sara Robinson, has a post up about Tiller on his blog:

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2009/05/jesuss-jihadis.html

Thanks for introducing me to this blog, btw. They and Right Wing Watch have been doing a great job of covering right wing domestic terrorists lately.  

Pffft, you're not a people, you're Discordian.



Allow me to restate:

Mosbunal humans behave this way at least sombunal of the time when it comes to their self-identified tribe. Since the days of the One True God, Gathexixa who lived in the lake, humans have fought each other over His Will. Sure, these days some call him YHVH, some call him Adoni, some call him Allah, some call him Jesus... but some very scary number of them still have no issue with sending the unbelievers to the bottom of the lake to meet Gathexixa personally.

The idiot that shot Tiller was part of a very hate filled tribe, a tribe that uses words like mass murder and "Nazi" to demonize their enemies. Once a truly faithful member of the tribe recognizes that the tribe is threatened by a DEMON/NAZI/COMMIE/PINKO/ABORTION DOCTOR they no longer see the enemy as anything other than a DEMON/NAZI/COMMIE/PINKO/ABORTION DOCTOR... then its easy to kill them because they aren't HUMAN. Governments do this shit all the time... Jap, Gook, Kraut, Commie, any term to make the enemy something less than human... then you make sure that the tribe's safety/security/freedoms/way of life are being threatened by this evil 'not human" and BAM a few hundred thousand people, who would normally act sane, go running off to kill.

The methods and psychology are the same, just on a much smaller scale.

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone. Random acts of violence, perpetrated by a vigilante is not supported anywhere, even in the most violent and disturbing bits of the Bible. It seems obvious that the Religious Leaders that manipulate the message bear a great responsibility for these sorts of actions. It reminds me of what Jesus supposedly saw in Israel during the 1st century. The Pharisees and Saducees had warped the Law to the point that it had become a heavy burden on the people... they made a big show of prayers and piety, while those who followed their teachings were confused, stressed and often broke out in random acts of stupid violence. Sort of like a dog that you have no consistent training with, it never knows when its being good or bad, it just gets random treatings or beatings and everyone is surprised in it suddenly mauls a baby.

TITCM. Fundamentalists (of any religion) scare the ever-loving shit out of me. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone.

You serious? I can't imagine anyone reading the OT, believing it as literally true and not being predisposed to killing the infidels. Yahweh was a fucking textbook psychopath ffs!

Finish the quote: Random acts of violence, perpetrated by a vigilante is not supported anywhere, even in the most violent and disturbing bits of the Bible.

In every case of violence that was OK with YHVH, it was under his direction, or at least under the direction of whatever spag he put in charge. YHVH was not one for independent thinkers/actors. In fact, cases where someone did something then said "But, I thought God would like it" usually got their asses killed.

YHVH was a psychopath, but he was a controlling psychopath.

Besides, if one is a Christian, they accept the New Covenant, not the Law Covenant and without the Law covenant there is no standard to judge another against (Judge not ...). The Bible is not a good book, but you have to warp things quite a bit to get support for this kind of bullshit.

Well, YHVH does seem to take his time in punishing people who do such things.  I mean, I would take that as tacit support, if I were a fundamentalist.  And everyone knows the secular Federal government is an arm of Satan and so getting arrested and tried and convicted and ass-raped in prison doesn't count.

Well, YHVH hasn't punished anyone since Ananias and Saphira. Under the 'new covenant' with Jesus that sort of direct punishment went away for the most part. YHVH could judge Jews immediately, because they were all in contract with him via the Moasic Law. With the New Covenant, Jesus death was supposed to 'cover over' the sins of his followers so that they would not be judged until Judgment Day. Indeed, the Christians that claimed Tiller should die, those that rejoiced because he 'went to hell', according to the Covenant, have signed their own death warrant. If they as a sinful human pass judgment on another sinful human, rather than forgiving them... then God can (and will) do the same to them. (See Jesus parable of the Debtors).

The Bible is a ridiculous book, but vigilante judgment and execution is a direct ticket to the Left side of God, and a one way drop into the furnace with the weeds and the goats.

Of course, most of the evangelical movement is based on insanity rather than scripture, so the point it likely moot.

I always figured that evangelical/fundamentalist adherence to scripture was 0.000000000001% at the most whilst some kind of inherent cognitive dissonance allows them to believe it's 110%

So the words "kill" and "unbeliever" appear, mixed up in the million or so other words that the fundie doesn't see when they open their holy manuscript and lo and behold it says "kill the unbeliever" right there in the bible which was written by god (doesn't even fucking say that in the book but what the fuck do facts have to do with it?)

Let's face it we're not dealing with rational human beings here. Logic and reality and bullshit like that do not apply in any way shape or form. The mere concept that there is a book which was handwritten by a giant invisible nazi is more than enough for someone who is psychologically predisposed to needing an excuse to burn niggers or gays or anything else his tenuous grip on reality can't stomach. Facts or what it actually says in the book are utterly irrelevent.

[Bu🤠ns]

Maybe people just need an "logical" excuse to satisfy their taste for blood...

                                                                 We is in your genes, killin your baby killers!
                                                                                         /

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

It's still horrifying though. I can't imagine anyone reading the Bible and thinking that God would want them to shoot anyone.

You serious? I can't imagine anyone reading the OT, believing it as literally true and not being predisposed to killing the infidels. Yahweh was a fucking textbook psychopath ffs!

Finish the quote: Random acts of violence, perpetrated by a vigilante is not supported anywhere, even in the most violent and disturbing bits of the Bible.

In every case of violence that was OK with YHVH, it was under his direction, or at least under the direction of whatever spag he put in charge. YHVH was not one for independent thinkers/actors. In fact, cases where someone did something then said "But, I thought God would like it" usually got their asses killed.

YHVH was a psychopath, but he was a controlling psychopath.

Besides, if one is a Christian, they accept the New Covenant, not the Law Covenant and without the Law covenant there is no standard to judge another against (Judge not ...). The Bible is not a good book, but you have to warp things quite a bit to get support for this kind of bullshit.

Well, YHVH does seem to take his time in punishing people who do such things.  I mean, I would take that as tacit support, if I were a fundamentalist.  And everyone knows the secular Federal government is an arm of Satan and so getting arrested and tried and convicted and ass-raped in prison doesn't count.

Well, YHVH hasn't punished anyone since Ananias and Saphira. Under the 'new covenant' with Jesus that sort of direct punishment went away for the most part. YHVH could judge Jews immediately, because they were all in contract with him via the Moasic Law. With the New Covenant, Jesus death was supposed to 'cover over' the sins of his followers so that they would not be judged until Judgment Day. Indeed, the Christians that claimed Tiller should die, those that rejoiced because he 'went to hell', according to the Covenant, have signed their own death warrant. If they as a sinful human pass judgment on another sinful human, rather than forgiving them... then God can (and will) do the same to them. (See Jesus parable of the Debtors).

The Bible is a ridiculous book, but vigilante judgment and execution is a direct ticket to the Left side of God, and a one way drop into the furnace with the weeds and the goats.

Of course, most of the evangelical movement is based on insanity rather than scripture, so the point it likely moot.

I always figured that evangelical/fundamentalist adherence to scripture was 0.000000000001% at the most whilst some kind of inherent cognitive dissonance allows them to believe it's 110%

So the words "kill" and "unbeliever" appear, mixed up in the million or so other words that the fundie doesn't see when they open their holy manuscript and lo and behold it says "kill the unbeliever" right there in the bible which was written by god (doesn't even fucking say that in the book but what the fuck do facts have to do with it?)

Let's face it we're not dealing with rational human beings here. Logic and reality and bullshit like that do not apply in any way shape or form. The mere concept that there is a book which was handwritten by a giant invisible nazi is more than enough for someone who is psychologically predisposed to needing an excuse to burn niggers or gays or anything else his tenuous grip on reality can't stomach. Facts or what it actually says in the book are utterly irrelevent.

This Is The Correct Martyrcycle 

[Pariah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuXrBxHbFAk
there's the clip of his response

How the fuck is honest reporting launching personal attack like "Tiller the Baby Killer" and otherwise destroying the reputation of a PRIVATE citizen.

Of course O' Reilly Himself didn't pull the trigger nor is he going to or should be held legally accountable but destroying the reputation of a private citizen for doing something that is not illegal nor (I would think) against his conscience is the wrong thing to do especially with having a nationwide podium that addresses some of the more volatile and violent segments of the population.

[Bu🤠ns]

I think its a good lesson to remember to take one's name into account when choosing an occupation. 

That is assuming that you dont' want to be an easy media target.  I wonder if this poor fella's name wasn't so close to the word 'killer' he would still be alive today.

For instance: i have to make my backyard level so that we can add rocks to make a nice fire pit.  For marshmallows, hotdogs,  chats and laughs.  Now, i can't even think about the preparatory leveling of the ground without associating my Black & Decker ground 'tiller' with the phrase 'baby killer'. 

All summer long, now, i'm going to remember that the source of our heat and warm tummies had something, albeit remotely, to do with the slaughter of innocents.

Thanks, Bill O'Reilly, thank you for warming my summer, schmuck.

[Adios]

The only difference between nuts is the tree they are on. These particular nuts are on the gospel tree. If they weren't on this tree they would most certainly be on another nut bearing tree.

[Jenne]

I like that, Hawk.  It fits.

[Soylent Green]

And just in case you still had a shred of respect for humanity:

Tweets of Hate: The Crazy Right Twitters About the Assassination of Dr Tiller.

http://carnalnation.com/content/7628/3/tweets-hate-crazy-right-twitters-about-murder-dr-tiller

A small sample of the hatred expressed on Twitter after the assassination of Dr Tiller:

    * Crap, I always forgot hashtags. I'm happy Tiller's dead. - Jennifer Waite, Selah, Washington
    * UPDATE... Doctor George Tiller was aborted today in his 204th trimester - aren't paybacks a bitch - Punch
    * oh HAPPY DAY! Tiller the baby killer is DEAD! - Samantha Pelch
    * George Tiller the baby killer was shot dead this morning. God bless the gunmen who hopefully won't be caught. - readnwatchchris, Creedmor. NC
    * was George Tiller the baby killers brain scrambled the way he scrambled full term fetuses.. one can only hope - Brad S
    * Infamous baby killer George Tiller gunned down at (irony) church. Why do I not feel sorry for him? Have fun at Judgment Day. - James Fiddler
    * tiller the baby killer shot dead...wow. is it insensitive of me to say what goes around comes around? - Brad M. Negulescu Cleveland.
    * George Tiller the Baby Killer shot dead. May he rot in Hell. - Amy Strong
    * Tiller Baby Killer was shot and killed this morning Justice has been served. - Shirl Ledeux
    * Thinking about "Tiller the baby killer" He now knows the wages of sin is death. - Dianne McDowell
    * May Tiller rot in Hell , infanticide is the murder of babies, he WAS a provider of death like Hitler, Bundy the list goes on.... - Dennis, A People Voip Company
    * Burn in hell George Tiller - mikedanben Sparta, NJ (41.005501,-74.672)
    * No need to pray for George Tiller. We know he went straight to hell!!!!! - Laurie D. Bailey Olive Branch, MS
    * Good ridence to Tiller - babies will not be murdered because he is now gone. Wonder how he likes hell! - Jay Emess, Southern, NJ
    * Karma is a beautiful thing. Cheers to the hero who sent George Tiller where he belongs... straight to hell. - Matthew Kamar
    * omg!george tiller abortion dr. was killed n his church parkn lot! hell yea! - Sarah Gulick, Wtichita, Ks
    * George Tiller: Burning in Hell for the last three hours. - darthdilbert Kettering, Oh
    * Hmm, I know it's wrong, but I feel like the Late-Term Abortion Doctor George Tiller, got what was he deserved..... - Mary Keogh London England
    * Boom Boom Boom. George Tiller was served a very very late term abortion this morning. - Chad Coleman, coeur d'alene, Id

Fuck people 

HURR DURR LETS CALL IT MURDER TO GIVE WOMEN THE RIGHTS TO THEIR BODY HURRRRR