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Started by Requia ☣, June 07, 2009, 08:20:39 PM

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Requia ☣

June 07, 2009, 08:20:39 PM
I finally got around to reading and old Journal of Psychohistory I picked up at a yard sale, and I found this gem:

QuoteSpiegel (1974) Identifies a pattern of personality traits which he calls the Grade Five Syndrom.  These are people who are very highly hypnotizable.  He estimates their natural occurance in the population at just under 5%.  Others have suggested that the frequency is somewhat higher, between 5 and 10% of the population.

These individuals are described as exhibiting a posture of trust that can border on a pathological level of compliance with the wishes and beliefs of those in their environment.  They frequently demonstrate trance logic (Orne 1959), which is the capacity to act as if one is unaware of even extreme logical incongruities, and an ease in suspending normal levels of judgment.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Cain

#1
June 07, 2009, 08:23:05 PM
And these are the people who continue to make being a Nigerian Prince/Tarot card reader/psychic/politician a viable profession.

They should have a statue built in their honour, really.

Requia ☣

#2
June 07, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
It occurs to me that this perfectly explains my mother.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Arafelis

#3
June 07, 2009, 08:48:17 PM
I think it explains a lot of peoples' mothers.  And a few First Ladies.
"OTOH, I shook up your head...I must be doing something right.What's wrong with schisms?  Malaclypse the younger DID say "Discordians need to DISORGANIZE."  If my babbling causes a few sparks, well hell...it beats having us backslide into our own little greyness." - The Good Reverend Roger

Triple Zero

#4
June 07, 2009, 09:48:40 PM
But surely no fathers or First .. Gentlemen (?)
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INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Arafelis

#5
June 07, 2009, 09:51:40 PM
People in power usually have less need of escaping reality.  That way, at least.
"OTOH, I shook up your head...I must be doing something right.What's wrong with schisms?  Malaclypse the younger DID say "Discordians need to DISORGANIZE."  If my babbling causes a few sparks, well hell...it beats having us backslide into our own little greyness." - The Good Reverend Roger

Triple Zero

#6
June 07, 2009, 10:08:40 PM
Wow. Just, wow.

:lol:
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Requia ☣

#7
June 07, 2009, 10:25:23 PM
One more post....
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Kai

#8
June 07, 2009, 10:26:10 PM
AAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNND SEXISM.

We have arrived.  :lulz:
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fomenter

#9
June 07, 2009, 10:27:49 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 07, 2009, 09:48:40 PM
But surely no fathers or First .. Gentlemen (?)

it seemed an accurate description of bush in many ways..
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp

Arafelis

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June 07, 2009, 10:46:38 PM Last Edit: June 07, 2009, 10:48:43 PM by Arafelis
QuoteAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNND SEXISM.

I'm pretty sure I don't follow.  The claim I made was that males have traditionally been in power.  Is that false?

QuoteOne more post....

One more post 'till what?
"OTOH, I shook up your head...I must be doing something right.What's wrong with schisms?  Malaclypse the younger DID say "Discordians need to DISORGANIZE."  If my babbling causes a few sparks, well hell...it beats having us backslide into our own little greyness." - The Good Reverend Roger

Bu🤠ns

#11
June 07, 2009, 10:53:49 PM
Quote from: Requia on June 07, 2009, 08:20:39 PM
I finally got around to reading and old Journal of Psychohistory I picked up at a yard sale, and I found this gem:

QuoteSpiegel (1974) Identifies a pattern of personality traits which he calls the Grade Five Syndrom.  These are people who are very highly hypnotizable.  He estimates their natural occurance in the population at just under 5%.  Others have suggested that the frequency is somewhat higher, between 5 and 10% of the population.

These individuals are described as exhibiting a posture of trust that can border on a pathological level of compliance with the wishes and beliefs of those in their environment.  They frequently demonstrate trance logic (Orne 1959), which is the capacity to act as if one is unaware of even extreme logical incongruities, and an ease in suspending normal levels of judgment.

HAHAHA it seems Spiegel is sick and fucking tired of stupid people and needed a way to make it sound scientific!!! :mittens: , ftw

Requia ☣

#12
June 07, 2009, 10:56:39 PM
He was actually studying hypnosis.  The grade fives are the ultra sensitive, essentially hypnotizing themselves.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Telarus

#13
June 07, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
We all experience this state at times, the people described just live in it pretty much constantly.
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#14
June 08, 2009, 12:10:54 AM
The idea that someone can live like that is very :horrormirth:
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