Is it just me or is distaste for Libertarianism contradictory to discordianism?

[Pergamos]

Is there a political label for someone who thinks we made a massive mistake when we stopped being hunter gatherers?

I regularly fantasise about going off to live in the woods.

It's only the knowledge that its a stupid idea that would suck in reality that stops me... and also I need to do the laundry.

All kinds of very serious and well considered ideologies as based on stupid ideas. I think this could be a real go-er.

primitivist.  A lot of primitivists are even worse assholes than libertarians.

[Doktor Howl]

Is there a political label for someone who thinks we made a massive mistake when we stopped being hunter gatherers?

I regularly fantasise about going off to live in the woods.

It's only the knowledge that its a stupid idea that would suck in reality that stops me... and also I need to do the laundry.

All kinds of very serious and well considered ideologies as based on stupid ideas. I think this could be a real go-er.

primitivist.  A lot of primitivists are even worse assholes than libertarians.

This is incorrect.  The least annoying primitivist is 100 times more annoying and flat out STUPID than any libertarian.  Which is saying a great deal.

[Cain]

But also 100 times smellier.

[Doktor Howl]

But also 100 times smellier.

Also a big deal.

[Con-troll]

Extreme music is extreme for a reason. I have friends who base their choice between far-left/right depending on which they see as the most effective way to kill everyone.

Once you side with Nazis you can never, ever get the poo off of yourself.

My childhood trauma prevents me from disagreeing with people, so I guess I'm doomed.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

We need corporate regulations because, given the checks and balances in most first world countries, corporations are a at least as likely a source of repression as the government is in these places. And not just repression of their employees either. Consider the recent restrictions imposed by many popular online social platforms. In December, Tumblr abruptly deleted a third of their content and kicked out thousands of longtime users for no reason other than that they suddenly decided that they didn't like their content. That sort of thing should be illegal. We need additional corporate legislation to restore people's ability to express themselves.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

And without strict corporate regulation we end up with monopolies, which are inherently contrary to Discordianism (see Hesiod's Works and Days)

[Don Coyote]

Just look at what we missed out because of government regulations.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Is that like Binsky's Nuclear Beer?

[Pergamos]

We need corporate regulations because, given the checks and balances in most first world countries, corporations are a at least as likely a source of repression as the government is in these places. And not just repression of their employees either. Consider the recent restrictions imposed by many popular online social platforms. In December, Tumblr abruptly deleted a third of their content and kicked out thousands of longtime users for no reason other than that they suddenly decided that they didn't like their content. That sort of thing should be illegal. We need additional corporate legislation to restore people's ability to express themselves.

I would personally prefer to see the check on corporate power come from employees and consumers.  Without the government holding them back unions are quite capable of representing employees, consumers are still lacking the sort of organizations that can effectively negotiate with corporate suppliers.

[LMNO]

We need corporate regulations because, given the checks and balances in most first world countries, corporations are a at least as likely a source of repression as the government is in these places. And not just repression of their employees either. Consider the recent restrictions imposed by many popular online social platforms. In December, Tumblr abruptly deleted a third of their content and kicked out thousands of longtime users for no reason other than that they suddenly decided that they didn't like their content. That sort of thing should be illegal. We need additional corporate legislation to restore people's ability to express themselves.

It was SESTA/FOSTA.

I would personally prefer to see the check on corporate power come from employees and consumers.  Without the government holding them back unions are quite capable of representing employees, consumers are still lacking the sort of organizations that can effectively negotiate with corporate suppliers.

https://www.facebook.com/falgsc/posts/551896921885760

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

We need corporate regulations because, given the checks and balances in most first world countries, corporations are a at least as likely a source of repression as the government is in these places. And not just repression of their employees either. Consider the recent restrictions imposed by many popular online social platforms. In December, Tumblr abruptly deleted a third of their content and kicked out thousands of longtime users for no reason other than that they suddenly decided that they didn't like their content. That sort of thing should be illegal. We need additional corporate legislation to restore people's ability to express themselves.

It was SESTA/FOSTA.

I heard it was Apple who demanded it, and that they obsequiously obliged because they've become another of the Apple corporation's mindless flunkies/toadies.

In either case SESTA-FOSTA does demonstrate that corporate regulation is not always good. In that spirit I feel that I should revise my statement to more specifically say that we need regulations on how corporations interact with consumers, employees, the environment, their competition, and the government. Regulating other aspects is not as important. As long as they don't abuse their employees, cheat their customers, pollute the environment, sabotage their competition, cheat on their taxes, pull strings with congress to entrench their company or industry to eliminate competition and obsolescence it basically doesn't matter what else they do

[Pergamos]

I would personally prefer to see the check on corporate power come from employees and consumers.  Without the government holding them back unions are quite capable of representing employees, consumers are still lacking the sort of organizations that can effectively negotiate with corporate suppliers.

https://www.facebook.com/falgsc/posts/551896921885760

I don't see the relevance.  You seem to be suggesting I am against checks on corporate power.  I am absolutely not, I just don't think Government is going to do a very good job of it, regulatory capture is a real danger and has occurred repeatedly.  That pile of regulations that Trump wants to burn does contain some protections for consumer safety, it also includes regulations designed to keep out competitors, and to protect corporations from consumers.  I think organizations of consumers, keeping track of when corporations neglect safety in their products and otherwise tracking bad behavior and then organizing boycotts are going to do a better job than the government will because they have more direct self interest.

[Don Coyote]

This implies that the consumer has even power singularly and enmass to force wide spread control over multinational corporations.

[Doktor Howl]

I don't see the relevance.  You seem to be suggesting I am against checks on corporate power.  I am absolutely not, I just don't think Government is going to do a very good job of it, regulatory capture is a real danger and has occurred repeatedly.  That pile of regulations that Trump wants to burn does contain some protections for consumer safety, it also includes regulations designed to keep out competitors, and to protect corporations from consumers.  I think organizations of consumers, keeping track of when corporations neglect safety in their products and otherwise tracking bad behavior and then organizing boycotts are going to do a better job than the government will because they have more direct self interest.

Oh, yeah, that shit will work nicely.