Obama is now responsible for child adoption molestations

[Thurnez Isa]

A complete horrible tragedy.. turned religious, and political

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jun/09063006.html

Cameron cited a 1978 Kinsey Institute study that found 23% of surveyed homosexual men admitting to having had sex with boys.

"The cant that 'gay parents are no more likely to molest' is not based on evidence but liberal ideology," said Cameron.

"By endorsing gay adoption, President Obama, the state of North Carolina, and Duke University share blame for this tragedy.  These policy makers let dogma blind them to evidence that has been in the literature for years."

oh and if you guys are wondering about the 30 Year old Study and one of the first serious studies on human sexuality
the number is actually higher... and Kinsey had this really strange rating system for sexuality... where 0 was completely heterosexual and 6 was homosexual, cause to Kinsey many people, if not most people fell somewhere in between
So when you take his Anthropological study (Kinsey was Zoologist not a Psychologist like people believe) and put it in a social context you get... well that article  

[Requia ☣]

How many of them had that sex while they were still the same age?

[Kai]

Yeah, Kinsey was an entomologist and actually the worlds foremost expert on gall gnats (Diptera: Cynipidae). Apparently after his 10 year dissertation work on the group he started going to diverse cocktail parties to ask people uncomfortable questions and his sociological studies just sorta took off from there. Brilliant person really, but hardly the best source for information on this stuff.

Oh, and the people he talked with most often? They were the extremes of any group, because he was interested in freaks; his studies could hardly be said to represent the average person, whether Kinsey 0 or 6.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Unfortunately, his reports are still to this day the most comprehensive collection of data in the field of human sexuality. Although he did have specific interest in anything  that was considered deviant, his surveys were spread over a very broad demographic and, IMO, were sound science.

[Kai]

Unfortunately, his reports are still to this day the most comprehensive collection of data in the field of human sexuality. Although he did have specific interest in anything  that was considered deviant, his surveys were spread over a very broad demographic and, IMO, were sound science.

Didn't Masters and Johnson cover some of this stuff, or was that just sexual functionality, not the social aspects?

Sounds like there needs to be a new "kinsey study".

[Template]

Unfortunately, his reports are still to this day the most comprehensive collection of data in the field of human sexuality. Although he did have specific interest in anything  that was considered deviant, his surveys were spread over a very broad demographic and, IMO, were sound science.

Didn't Masters and Johnson cover some of this stuff, or was that just sexual functionality, not the social aspects?

Sounds like there needs to be a new "kinsey study".

A long-term one might be ideal: same techniques reiterated over a decade or more could give a view of what varies readily, and any rates of adjustment w/r/t social mores.  Someone qualified, go contact, like, Trojan, and ask for a research grant.

[MMIX]

A complete horrible tragedy.. turned religious, and political

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jun/09063006.html

Cameron cited a 1978 Kinsey Institute study that found 23% of surveyed homosexual men admitting to having had sex with boys.

Alfred Kinsey died in 1956 the INSTITUTE which bears his name ran from the late 30's til 2004 IIRC

Kinsey researchers predominantly interviewed adults about their childhood sexual behaviours and experiences - though a very limited amount of evidence came from adult abusers describing their victims behaviours and such sources as concentration camp guards.

"The cant that 'gay parents are no more likely to molest' is not based on evidence but liberal ideology," said Cameron.

Bullshit - and yes bullshit IS a considered opinion in this instance . . .

"By endorsing gay adoption, President Obama, the state of North Carolina, and Duke University share blame for this tragedy.  These policy makers let dogma blind them to evidence that has been in the literature for years."

this sounds like a man with an axe to grind -  and I wonder just how many gay adoptive fathers there were back in 1978?  hmmm somewhere between none and ohhhh none I would guess

oh and if you guys are wondering about the 30 Year old Study and one of the first serious studies on human sexuality

Krafft-Ebing Psychopathia Sexualis 1886; Sigmund Freud late 19th to mid 20thc [1939?] The Kinsey Institute 1930's >on; the Masters & Johnson 1966 >on [and yes their research was into physical sexual response]

the number is actually higher...

is there something missing here? what number?

and Kinsey had this really strange rating system for sexuality... where 0 was completely heterosexual and 6 was homosexual, cause to Kinsey many people, if not most people fell somewhere in between

do you not believe that sexuality/sexual expression is a continuum of experience/behaviour?

so when you take his Anthropological study

sexology is not anthropology - just saying

(Kinsey was Zoologist not a Psychologist like people believe)

yes he trained as a taxonomist but he practised as a sexologist using his highly regarded scientific expertise in his new field, and he wasn't a sociologist either nor did his research data consist of dirty talk at parties!

and put it in a social context you get... well that article  

you almost sound like you are blaming Kinsey for this shitty mess . . .

The boat has probably sailed on a 21stC Kinsey report because I doubt you could persuade any contemporary university ethics committee to allow the collection of data which would require guaranteeing the anonymity of sex offenders or maybe even pedos . . .

[Thurnez Isa]

why would i blame kinsey ?
I think your misunderstanding me here...
I was merely slightly paraphrasing slightly how the study does not apply.
the number is the number quoted

[MMIX]

why would i blame kinsey ?
I think your misunderstanding me here...
I was merely slightly paraphrasing slightly how the study does not apply.
the number is the number quoted

yeah I should have flagged it up as a non-serious comment ya know  a lol or somesuch. Interestingly I suspect that the choice of research paper is not the real problem but the way in which it has been interpreted by Dr Cameron. It can never be said too often that "Facts" do not speak for themselves . . .