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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #315 on: October 26, 2010, 03:47:01 pm »
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #316 on: October 28, 2010, 11:45:23 pm »
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I think we should take "making" out of the title...

I think we should take "LuciferX" out of PD.com.

And by "take" I mean "knee in the balls".
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #317 on: October 31, 2010, 03:14:03 am »
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I think we should take "making" out of the title...

I think we should take "LuciferX" out of PD.com.

And by "take" I mean "knee in the balls".

based on how you kneed balls?
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #318 on: October 31, 2010, 07:19:49 am »
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Transhumanists tend to be too optimistic about the whole thing.

I'm all up for it, but the sheer amount of redundancy needed to be built in to the whole system, if its to stand any chance against entropy is mindfuckingly amazing and highly improbable at this juncture in time, and without some amazing strides in science.

I wish life was like an Alaister Reynolds novel.

I don't mean so much the technology holding up, or worries about AIs killing us all for the hell of it.  I'm more worried about humans being human, and dooming us all.  We'll refuse to adapt to a post scarcity economy and unemployment will hit 90%, or we'll decide weaponized grey goo is a good idea, or some other piece of insanity.
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #319 on: October 31, 2010, 08:42:50 am »
I'm mostly concerned about our ability to create intelligent machines that are too obedient. 

All the most terrible things ever are accomplished with armies of obedient agents. 

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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #320 on: November 04, 2010, 07:19:46 am »
I'm also worried about too human-like AI, Sig.

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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #321 on: November 04, 2010, 05:23:59 pm »
I'm mostly concerned about our ability to create intelligent machines that are too obedient. 

All the most terrible things ever are accomplished with armies of obedient agents. 
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #322 on: November 06, 2010, 03:00:09 am »
I'm mostly concerned about our ability to create intelligent machines that are too obedient. 

All the most terrible things ever are accomplished with armies of obedient agents. 
This.
Motherfucking this.
Welcome brother! to the brotherhood of Andoulism.
I used to call myself anarchist, back when i thought leaders were to blame for having followers.
but now i know better, it's not the leaders that are bad, its the followers.
instead of without leaders === an-archos i have decided that utopia can only be obtained when we are
without servants/slaves ===  an-doulos.
All hail Andoulitry!

It likes the idea, then dismisses acceptance thereof because logical inconsistency follows.
If the idea serves reason or my taste, it cannot be andoulos.
Conversely, if it is not andoulos, I then can follow.
Andoulos is /contra/ my diction. :oops:
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #323 on: November 06, 2010, 04:06:14 am »
I'm also worried about too human-like AI, Sig.

The evil you know, et cetera.  I strongly anticipate that some kind of machine intelligence will be created eventually, the best thing I can think of is to create an anthropic one that is squeamish about murder, a bit lazy, and not in total control of it's own mind.  Like a human.  At least that's the kind of problem you can sort of model and predict.

I'm mostly concerned about our ability to create intelligent machines that are too obedient. 

All the most terrible things ever are accomplished with armies of obedient agents. 
This.
Motherfucking this.
Welcome brother! to the brotherhood of Andoulism.
I used to call myself anarchist, back when i thought leaders were to blame for having followers.
but now i know better, it's not the leaders that are bad, its the followers.
instead of without leaders === an-archos i have decided that utopia can only be obtained when we are
without servants/slaves ===  an-doulos.
All hail Andoulitry!

All that said, the reason I'm actually interested in all this machine consciousness crap is that deep down I really just want a robot butler who knows a little kung fu.

That would pretty much complete me, spiritually and emotionally.

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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #324 on: November 06, 2010, 05:00:15 am »
I'm also worried about too human-like AI, Sig.

The evil you know, et cetera.  I strongly anticipate that some kind of machine intelligence will be created eventually, the best thing I can think of is to create an anthropic one that is squeamish about murder, a bit lazy, and not in total control of it's own mind.  Like a human.  At least that's the kind of problem you can sort of model and predict.

I'm mostly concerned about our ability to create intelligent machines that are too obedient. 

All the most terrible things ever are accomplished with armies of obedient agents. 
This.
Motherfucking this.
Welcome brother! to the brotherhood of Andoulism.
I used to call myself anarchist, back when i thought leaders were to blame for having followers.
but now i know better, it's not the leaders that are bad, its the followers.
instead of without leaders === an-archos i have decided that utopia can only be obtained when we are
without servants/slaves ===  an-doulos.
All hail Andoulitry!

All that said, the reason I'm actually interested in all this machine consciousness crap is that deep down I really just want a robot butler who knows a little kung fu.

That would pretty much complete me, spiritually and emotionally.
I like how it likes what is prudent.
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Re: I'm making a religion based on Emergence.
« Reply #325 on: November 06, 2010, 05:11:15 am »
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I'm also worried about too human-like AI, Sig.


transitional post. this translates into;



this right! :lulz:
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