Fresh Keys, Get 'em while they're hot! Get your Encryption here!

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

This is a thread for sharing Public Keys. Before we go further, I'll provide Ratatosk's Guide to Encryption so those of you who are not crypto geeks will understand and can use these lovely Privacy toys.

Encryption

There are two kinds of encryption. Symmetric Key encryption and Asymmetric Key Encryption. Symmetric keys are simple, there is a single key, it can encrypt or decrypt data. The security of the key lies in it's secrecy. As long as no one can get the key, no one can decrypt the data. These keys are usually small and fast. They're often used in cash registers, databases and other applications where there is some assurance of the system being secure. The real issue with this system is how we share this key that could be compromised... If Triple Zero and I want to communicate via encrypted messages and we use Symmetric Keys, we have to find some secure method to share the key. That is a problem.

Asymmetric encryption, gets around this problem by creating two keys a Public Key and a Private Key. The Public Key can be shared with the whole Universe and not risk compromising the Private Key. If someone encrypts something with the Public Key, ONLY the Private Key can be used to decrypt the message. Together, these keys are called a 'keypair'.

Obviously, for communication Asymmetric encryption is the way to go. That's what PGP and GPG (GnuPG) do.

How It Works

Triple Zero and Rat want to communicate securely.

They both get GPG and create a keypair. The private key and public key are automatically created and put into their public keyring and private keyring, respectively. They both export their Public Key and post it on this website.

Now, each of them copy their keys and import them into their Public Keyring. So Triple Zero has Rat's Public Key and Rat has Triple Zero's Public Key. At this point we can securely communicate. Secure, yes, trusted... maybe not. After all, if I'm really paranoid, maybe the government has been snooping on us here and maybe they replaced 000's Public Key with their own. So when I send my souper seekret message to 000, they will be able to read it!

The Bastards.

To get around this, PGP utilizes a Web of Trust and Fingerprinting. Fingerprints are unique hashes of the keypair. When I get Triple Zero's key, I can check his fingerprint against the keys fingerprint and BAM, verify the key. He can verify mine as well. Once done, we can sign the key. Anyone who trusts us, can now trust the keys we've signed. Since we're all geographically disparate, this isn't as easy... but you can use a phone or whatever other method of communication you wish to verify the fingerprint. Remember, you can trust the key as far as you can trust the communication channel.

So, I think the best way to work through this is to just start sharing keys and answering questions as we go.


I recommend downloading Gnu Privacy Guard (aka GnuPG or GPG) from the website at: http://www.gnupg.org/

Install it, its pretty straightforward and you can accept all of the defaults. Once done, create a key pair. If you're using the default command line interface refer to the Cheat Sheet at: http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~lockhart/gpg/gpg-cs.html

The first command you'll run is: gpg --gen-key

That will ask you some questions, you can take the defaults (except for your name and email address). It will ask you to type randomly on the keyboard and move your mouse to create some random entropy. Once its done, you can export the key, since there is only one key, the export command is:

gpg --export -a

This will output your Public Key in an ASCII format. You can then post your key in this thread, like so:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

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=bndP
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

This key is tied to my gmail account "Ratatosk <erisian.rodent@gmail.com>".

If you download FireGPG or another GUI interface, then use its export features

Now you can import other keys in this thread. If you're using the command line, copy the keyblock, paste it into a text file, name the text file something like Rat.key and then import it with the command gpg --import Rat.key

If you're using FireGPG, you just highlight the key block and select import from the menu....UPDATE:  actually, it appears that FireGPG gves you options inline... COOL!!

Once done, we can send encrypted data to each other. For trust, let's discuss what options we can use to trust each others keys

Now, get moving and make some keys!!!


Hail Eris!
All Hail Discordia!

[Triple Zero]

awesome!

downloaded and installed GnuPG, (and also verified the SHA1 hash )

a quick link for the people that run Windows: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.9.exe

and this is for people that use a Mac: http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/

I will make some keys later.

[Requia ☣]

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Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

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=xab1
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Whoo Hoo!

Also note that with the FireGPG plugin you can create and manage all of your key stuff through a GUI. If you install FireGPG, then go into Firefox Tools/FireGPG you can select the Key manager and create your keypair there rather than using the command line interface!

Requia, I imported your key successfully!

[Requia ☣]

I think the best way to validate the public keys might be to check our keys as guests from a library or something, email them to ourselves and verify that other people see what we expect.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, the real issue isn't verifying the keys for ourselves, but rather me verifying that your key is really your key and not NSA Bob's key

That will involve using the Fingerprint of the public key in question and getting that fingerprint to other people in some way we can trust. Of course, if we're not real paranoid, we could assume that by logging in with your account and posting it here... we have some trust that Requia is the same Requia that logs in all the time.

But if we're not paranoid, why are we playing with crypto?

[Triple Zero]

But if we're not paranoid, why are we playing with crypto?

cause we wanna foil DPI by getting ppl to use crypto.

and if NSA Bob is gonna MITM all the keys, it'll get real obvious real fast.

not to say it's not smart to keep an eye out for it, but just getting people in general to use RSA/GPG, to make steps for it to become common sense and commonplace, is a worthy goal in and of itself, regardless of whatever NSA Bob is meddling in.

but, yeah.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

But if we're not paranoid, why are we playing with crypto?

cause we wanna foil DPI by getting ppl to use crypto.

and if NSA Bob is gonna MITM all the keys, it'll get real obvious real fast.

not to say it's not smart to keep an eye out for it, but just getting people in general to use RSA/GPG, to make steps for it to become common sense and commonplace, is a worthy goal in and of itself, regardless of whatever NSA Bob is meddling in.

but, yeah.

Oh sure, the 'web of trust' is entirely optional from a 'It works' perspective. If we ever get to the point where we're really concerned, then new keys and matching fingerprints will be important. For now, just sharing keys here will get us started! 

[fomenter]

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i think it worked ??

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

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i think it worked ??

I HAZ YOUR KEY!!!!

[fomenter]

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Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32)
Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.6)

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[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well one error there Fomenter... I think you encrypted that message to yourself

If you encrypt a message for ME select My Key when you encrypt... if you want it to go to me and to Requia, then select both of our keys when you encrypt.

If you encrypt with your public key, only your private key can decrypt it.

[fomenter]

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Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32)
Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.6)

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ratta this should be for you..

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

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Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.6)

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See if that works fomenter Yours came through fine

[fomenter]

yep it worked cool stuff....
now i need a noob explanation and "how-to" for truecrypt and Stego,  i will still be clueless, but clueless with more new toys to play with..