OMFG HARRY POTTER IS OUT THIS WEEK LOLOLOLOLOL

[Suu]

Didn't like this movie too much. Was my least favorite of the series so far.

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1. No closure for ANY of the plotlines they've got brewing. What is this, wheel of time?
2. So much sexual tension. Which leads nowhere. They captured all the drama of being a teenager with none of the dry humping.
3. the death eaters weren't really characters in this movie so much as they were placeholders for bad guys. They blew up a bridge and Ron's house - neither of which had any consequences.
4. Why did Harry have to ditch the HBP's book again? It seemed rather abrupt when they were like, "You have to get rid of this book!" and harry was like "okay!" ...did I miss something where they decided the book was bad? Hermoine was clearly jealous of it, but that wasn't a reason for Bland Love Interest girl to insist that Harry ditches it
5. Okay so snape is the halfblood prince. Why is that the subtitle of the movie? Again, maybe I'm missing something here, but there didn't seem to be a lot of build up / development around that
6. Secondary love-interest characters completely disappear once they've been dumped. Ron's chick and the cock dude that hermoine brought to the dance... luckily for these teenagers, their characters simply cease to exist once you've hurt their feelings. Okay, we get one sad-eyed scene from the obsessive chick.
7. Harry had to befriend the new teacher in order to get this piece of information which didn't end up being too important. Dumbledore already knew that there were seven important macguffins and had been collecting them for weeks.
8. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore that Snape was bonded to protect Malfoy? He had tons of opportunities to mention this, and it would have affected the ending.
9. For that matter, when dumbledore was about to get knocked off, why didn't he just teleport away like he does constantly in this movie? I also find it slightly odd that a super-wizard who has so much power it seems at times like Deus Ex Machina has no defense against being pushed off a building.



I mean, it was entertaining. But when the credits rolled, my GF and I were both like, "what?"

You haven't read any of the books, have you?

1: See Deathly Hallows.
2: More or less character development, though they cut out quite a bit. Obviously: Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione are now items.
3: There was a lot of stuff that happened between the Death Eaters in the book more so than in the movie. However, vital to the 2.5 hour adaptation? Probably not.
4: Sectum sempra. After using the spell for the first time on Malfoy, it scared the fuck out of Harry and he told the others. At that point they decided the book was bad and to get rid of it.
5: Snape is the head of Slytherin House, and he's not pure blood. He is also a Death Eater and not pure blood. Follow? Catching something a little off here? See also: Order of the Phoenix for flashbacks. Snape was bullied all to hell, especially by James Potter, Remus Lupin, Sirius Black, and Peter Pettigrew. Snape was also in love with Lily Evans, this all ties in more in Deathly Hallows.
6: Lavender Brown is more prominent in the books as she's been around for a while, Cormac McLaggen sort of came out of and fades to the backfield.
7: Dumbledore knew about the rumor of there being Horcruxes and had tried to collect them, even though he wasn't 100% sure. Slughorn's total memory was the absolute truth he needed.
8: See Deathly Hallows.
9: See Deathly Hallows.

Everything was left open for a reason. Like I mentioned even before seeing the film, this book was filler. Rowling knew how she wanted to end the story, she just had to get there.

[Suu]

He'll come back....








right?

There is no reversal for Avada Kedavra. If so, don't you think people like Harry's parents and Sirius Black or Cedric Diggory would have been brought back?

[AFK]

Yeah, I have to say this movie, out of all of the Harry Potter movies, was the least forgiving to spags like me who've never read the books. 

Also, why the hell are kids still going to that school when once a year, bad shit happens?  Where are the fucking parents? 

[Suu]

Also, why the hell are kids still going to that school when once a year, bad shit happens?  Where are the fucking parents? 

See Deathly Hallows.

[Cramulus]

Haven't read the books, don't intend to. If the movies are any good, they should make sense to people who haven't read the books too.

To some extent, this movie's flaws can be forgiven by the fact that there's another one around the corner. To a limited extent.


I hear (from Eve) that the actor playing Dumbledore hasn't read the books either. He insists he's not playing JK Rowling's character.


I suppose it's just a gripe I have with multi-part series like this. Instead of a real ending, you get a "hang on, this will make sense next year"...

all the other movies were relatively coherent. They were fairly episodic in nature, so could enjoy them even if you hadn't been following the movies so far.

I mean, look at the wizard competition. The whole movie was about the resolution of this one event. So when the event resolved, even though it's a "to be continued!" you still felt like you got a complete story. This movie didn't have any closure to issues explored within the movie.


and as a side note, wasn't the last ending like, "Holy shit! Voldemort is alive again! Now it's on like donkey kong!"

and then in this movie, he sends ... four people after the good guys? Four people that were already out causing havoc. Kind of underwhelming if you ask me, given that they've been trying to resurrect the guy for like five movies.


ALSO: "THE CHOSEN ONE" is now my least favorite fantasy cliche.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Basically, the movie pissed off hardcore Potter-tards because of the stuff they left out, and it annoyed and confused the uninitiated because of the stuff it left out. And then there's me and Suu, who have the vast majority of the plot burned into our minds, which automatically filled in the blank spots and allowed for enjoyment of the good bits.

In other words, 100% success.

[Suu]

The Chosen One get's old in the book too, and they play on that. (Like when Hermione hits Harry in the library for saying he is the Chosen One).

I don't know of who exactly has read the books or not, but from an acting standpoint, probably better to not have read them, that way you don't clash with the director.

And yeah, the whole multi-part series bit. Up until this book, all of them had a resolute ending, whereas Half Blood Prince is essentially the beginning of the end. Even the book had no closure, except that you knew that Dumbledore was dead, and Harry said that he wasn't going back to school for his 7th year. It's definitely my least favorite out of all 7 (Azkaban being my all-time fave.)

There is this whole scene with the funeral, which I do hope they put in the beginning of Deathly Hallows where Harry is sitting there and talking to Ginny basically saying that they had to break up as to not endanger her and stuff. Of all things they cut out, that was definitely the one that bothered me the most. I had the same reaction with that as I did sitting in the theatre with my brother watching the Two Towers and going, "WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT BITCH SHELOB?!" When the credits rolled.

Also, the wand on the desk? Ugh. Get that shit in the casket, yo. That's important.

Basically, the movie pissed off hardcore Potter-tards because of the stuff they left out, and it annoyed and confused the uninitiated because of the stuff it left out. And then there's me and Suu, who have the vast majority of the plot burned into our minds, which automatically filled in the blank spots and allowed for enjoyment of the good bits.

In other words, 100% success.

Yup. I will not be one of the fawning fan folk stalking around Brown University to catch a glimpse of Emma Watson come September, that's for sure.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

He'll come back....








right?

There is no reversal for Avada Kedavra. If so, don't you think people like Harry's parents and Sirius Black or Cedric Diggory would have been brought back?

Dumbledooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooore!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

(humor me here)

[the last yatto]

He'll come back....








right?

There is no reversal for Avada Kedavra.

then what was with the Phoenix flying away into the sunset

[Cainad (dec.)]

then what was with the Phoenix flying away into the sunset

Uh... Dumbledore's pet bird flew off into the sunset. Were you looking for phoenix-rebirth symbolism? 'Cause there ain't any. He dead.

[Suu]

He'll come back....








right?

There is no reversal for Avada Kedavra.

then what was with the Phoenix flying away into the sunset

That's Fawkes. A phoenix's tears can heal any wound, but they can't bring back anyone from the dead. See also: Chamber of Secrets.


Dumbledore is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead. He never comes back. Harry sees him in Deathly Hallows in the afterlife.


OOPS!

[Eater of Clowns]

Dumbledooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooore!!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

(humor me here)

He plays a big role in the last book even if he's gone.  So you'll either see him in flashbacks or just lots of dialogue about him.

This movie was definitely the most beautiful of the lot.  The shot where Harry was getting dragged under water by the inferi was gorgeous, as well as Snape and Harry facing off at the end.  I agree about the Quidditch match, it was way more exciting than any of the other movies.  It really gave a contact sport feel to it, with them flying in formations and colliding.

I ended up seeing it quite willingly with my girlfriend on Friday, then had a surprise viewing thrown at me with a bunch of friends on the cape two days later.

They made some bad choices with what they did and did not include.  The bridge collapse at the beginning was needless and probably exorbitantly expensive, which they could have used for an actual battle at the end.  I got pretty Pottertard about it.  I'm surprised to hear about the lack of enthusiasm for this book, I thought this was one of the best.  The mystery about the potions book was really dark, especially after the Sectum Sempra incident, and Harry chasing Snape out of the castle is one of my favorite interactions from the whole series.  I really liked the ambiguity of whether or not Snape was correcting Harry as he deflected his spells or if he was mocking him or both, which the movie missed entirely.  The movie even had that weird bit where Snape told Harry to shush up in the astronomy tower, pretty much giving away his affiliation.

I can't say I'm upset about it because even though I've seen all the movies they haven't ever done much for me.  They've been fun or interesting, and watching how some of the actors tackle their roles is great (Helena Bonham Carter is an excellent Bellatrix Lestrange), I just don't hold them as a high priority.  Meh.

[Epimetheus]

The movies have been getting worse since Prisoner of Azkaban, and this was the worst yet - I think it was pretty-looking but so very dull.

[Darth Cupcake]

I agree with Cram's assessment. I read the HP books because I liked the movies--they were episodic, and they were easily digested as they were.

As I understand it, the seventh book is going to be made into TWO films because there is too much to put into one. They should have done the same thing with this film, as even though I've read the books, I couldn't remember everything and I felt pretty confused fairly often. A lot of stuff was glossed over or skipped or whatever. So, although I enjoyed it, I hope they do a better job with Deathly Hallows.

Also, I still had fun.

[Suu]

The movies have been getting worse since Prisoner of Azkaban, and this was the worst yet - I think it was pretty-looking but so very dull.

No.

Order of the Phoenix was the worst one. Ever.