FWD: Testing

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[Captain Utopia]

I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish.

Then this isn't gonna be your crowd.   

I didn't say that it was without utility.

Trolling is not a tool, it is its own end.

You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.

Yes, I have no independent thought.  All of my ideas are beamed directly into my head by Iason, then I use my nefarious mind control rays to make everyone else here think the same way.  No, really.  We're like a hive, only without the honey.

Sorry we don't meet up with your high standards of "writing", ie, posting stupid fucking email forwards.



But, please, hang around and try to prove to us how smart/wise/right you are.  We're not going to use it to pummel you like a NASCAR wife.  No, really.

It might be nice if I could prove something to myself - sure - but equally nice if I could be proved wrong on any point. Knowing only that I have delusions, not knowing which those are in particular.. if any of you could prove me wrong on any particular point then that would be an immense favour.

If pummelling is the only path left, if all appeals to reason fail, then that's the way it is.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.

Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme".  Sometimes shit is just FUN.  Remember fun?  That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?

It might be nice if I could prove something to myself - sure - but equally nice if I could be proved wrong on any point.

What fucking point?  You posted a goddamn email forward like it was wisdom from the fucking sages.  

Pseudo-intellectualism doesn't go far here.  You might have better luck at the Church of Google.  They're always spouting puerile nonsense and calling it "philosophy", etc.

[Captain Utopia]

You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.

Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme".  Sometimes shit is just FUN.  Remember fun?  That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?

Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.

My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!

[Telarus]

Now you're catching on. 

I would recommend to LURK MOAR, for at least a few days. Read the threads at the top of the subforums (and make sure to get out of Apple Talk for a little while).

You might find this thread interesting, considering the subject you attempted to open discussion with:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=17671.0

[BADGE OF HONOR]

You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.

Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme".  Sometimes shit is just FUN.  Remember fun?  That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?

Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.

My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!

Quit pretending you're smarter than we are. 

[Pariah]

[Captain Utopia]

Quit pretending you're smarter than we are. 

Nice try, but I'm not going to fall for any more of your (collective) trolling on this thread. Have at it.

[Cain]

You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.

Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme".  Sometimes shit is just FUN.  Remember fun?  That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?

Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.

My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!

For someone who speaks so highly of intellectual curiousity, you seem to demonstrate a complete lack of awareness of the Pygmalion effect.

[Pariah]

How bout we stop devoting any more time to this troll.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

How bout we stop devoting any more time to this troll.

He's the light, we're the moths.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

My shit+ yuor coffee= ⊱✿♥BFF♥✿⊰

[Faust]

Quit pretending you're smarter than we are. 

Nice try, but I'm not going to fall for any more of your (collective) trolling on this thread. Have at it.

I think you are a condescending asshole but otherwise you were probably asking a genuine question. That email is as old as the hills at this stage and its not that interesting an effect. What you said about belief being the key to the ability to do it is a pretty straightforward concept. Look around and you will see some good stuff on mindfucking yourself.
One thing I do when I want to overcome some inhibition is I narrate what I want to happen aloud to myself, "And so he overcame his anxiety and slowly drifted into a restful state of sleep" is generally the last thing I hear at night.

[Captain Utopia]

I think you are a condescending asshole

I'll grant you that, without pause. It's simply a defence mechanism. Tends to make the other person angry enough such that I have room to score a tactical advantage. Would be better if I had complete control over it, but seemingly I can't yet have everything. It doesn't help that I find the whole process amusing. Even if it is a self-destructive behaviour pattern.

but otherwise you were probably asking a genuine question. That email is as old as the hills at this stage and its not that interesting an effect. What you said about belief being the key to the ability to do it is a pretty straightforward concept. Look around and you will see some good stuff on mindfucking yourself.

I know it's old - I gave up tracing it to 2005. The fact that it's a mindfuck which can be replicated in a few minutes, and presented to people who otherwise had no previous interest in mindfucks, or even the idea that they can switch their belief systems at will, does still make it interesting to me.. but I'll have to do more experimentation to see if giving permission to complete the exercise correctly neutralises the seeming physiological effect as reliably as it did with myself. I think it'd be neat to know of a simple quick mindfuck which works reliably on the "average person".

One thing I do when I want to overcome some inhibition is I narrate what I want to happen aloud to myself, "And so he overcame his anxiety and slowly drifted into a restful state of sleep" is generally the last thing I hear at night.

Thanks for the tip, I think I'll give it a try.

[Faust]

I think you are a condescending asshole

I'll grant you that, without pause. It's simply a defence mechanism. Tends to make the other person angry enough such that I have room to score a tactical advantage. Would be better if I had complete control over it, but seemingly I can't yet have everything. It doesn't help that I find the whole process amusing. Even if it is a self-destructive behaviour pattern.

You are gaining no tactical advantage. Your are merely rabble rousing on the weekend when its normally quiet here and turning yourself into a target as opposed to posting stuff to be discussed. I mean continue if you want but it generally comes to a point where you drop the attitude and you can enjoy some great conversations from there on out and this site does have a lot of rewarding conversations to be had.

Or you can go down the other more well worn path, a predictable exercise in futility and unnecessary drama which will invariably end with you leaving.
You have shown some glimmers of potential so I am offering you some advice do with it what you will, I cant see there being much more from this point out.