Ok, Republicans. We give up!!!

[Jenne]

You'd think so. 

The fear seems to be that, if the gvt plan is too cheap, employers will stop offering healthcare, and people will naturally choose the cheap gvt plan, putting the more expensive insurance companies out of business, and creating a gvt monopoly of health care.

Of course, these are the same people who claim that the gvt is too ineffecient to run anything correctly or cheaply, so there's a bit of disconnect there.

They seem to have a misunderstanding then.

Its already cheaper for me to get private health insurance than to pay for anything any of my previous employers provided.  It'd be very hard for the government to beat the 'nothing' those companies pay for health insurance.

TITCM

Basically, the private companies will not be able to compete with the government one that will not only give a helluvalot of tax breaks to the companies but also be dirt cheap for the consumer.  Slowly but surely, the private insurance companies will be sunk.

As they should be.

[Jenne]

...
Of course, these are the same people who claim that the gvt is too ineffecient to run anything correctly or cheaply, so there's a bit of disconnect there.

doesn't deficit spending account for this disconnect?

That population tends to be the one that WANTED the overspending in the military complex.

[Cramulus]

I just want some fucking health insurance that doesn't cost a third of my paycheck. Because a third already goes to taxes and another third to rent.

I don't care whether it's public or private, but it ain't here now.




every single person in france, even the homeless, have better health care than I do. WHAT THE FUCK.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I just want some fucking health insurance that doesn't cost a third of my paycheck. Because a third already goes to taxes and another third to rent.

I don't care whether it's public or private, but it ain't here now.




every single person in france, even the homeless, have better health care than I do. WHAT THE FUCK.

Well sure, but its easy to insure them... you know they'll never get into a fight.

[Requia ☣]

I just want some fucking health insurance that doesn't cost a third of my paycheck. Because a third already goes to taxes and another third to rent.

I don't care whether it's public or private, but it ain't here now.




every single person in france, even the homeless, have better health care than I do. WHAT THE FUCK.

It'll never happen in the US.  Other countries can afford to have public health care because they put price controls in, not just on hospitals and doctors, but on medical supplies and drug companies.  But we won't even talk about the part the medical supply companies play in this, and Obama outright appointed the CFO of a medical supply company to run health and human services, which shows were his opinions on the matter are.  The drug companies get at least a little bit of crap, but I haven't heard of anyone suggesting we actually put price controls on those since the 90s.

[Iason Ouabache]

Thought that this was funny too:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/dont_need_to_be_a_rocket_scientist.php?ref=fpblg

People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Thought that this was funny too:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/dont_need_to_be_a_rocket_scientist.php?ref=fpblg

People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.

We need to spread this meme under the guise of being Conservatards

[Requia ☣]

Thought that this was funny too:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/dont_need_to_be_a_rocket_scientist.php?ref=fpblg

People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.

Wouldn't it be the US system that does that?

Almost everyone will spend a point in their career without health insurance after all.  And having been in the disability system, I knew quite a few people who never pursued work simply because the loss of state plans if they did (anything above minimum wage, even 5 minutes overtime, used to disqualify you, nowadays its better, but they still take everything you make above what your disability check is, so why bother?) were unacceptable in their condition.  Hell, even the private stuff was worthless to them, pre existing conditions.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

I just want some fucking health insurance that doesn't cost a third of my paycheck. Because a third already goes to taxes and another third to rent.

I don't care whether it's public or private, but it ain't here now.




every single person in france, even the homeless, have better health care than I do. WHAT THE FUCK.

I would just like to get antibiotics when I get sick.
Oh, and to see a dentist every now and again.
Oh and if I get cancer to not slowly rot and die.

That's all I ask.

Dear USA


stuff like this is number 3 i didn't move to the states.

the American healthcare system is a fucking farce in a western nation.

squid should be able to get medical treatment, having it blocked by financial lack of means is barbaric, and cram should be able to get treatment and  be able to pay for more than his rent. Bums in france getting better treatment than american working Cramspags... you should be fucking ashamed of your nation. People should not be bankrupted by illness.  spend thousands of dollars on meds because she couldnt get her teeth fixed?

public healthcare has been demonised as some kind of filthy socialist thing by the right wing in America.

if thats the case i love the nhs and am a filthy socialist. this britspag screams at America... get with the fucking program!

or kill me.

[Kai]

In that case I'm proud to be a filthy socialist.

[Iason Ouabache]

Thought that this was funny too:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/dont_need_to_be_a_rocket_scientist.php?ref=fpblg

People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.

Wouldn't it be the US system that does that?

Yes, in the US system he more than likely would have been denied coverage a long time ago and he would have wracked up millions of dollars in debt by now. But I guess that it is ok as long as it is a private insurance company that does it.

[Iason Ouabache]

Stephen Hawkings actually responded to this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/12/birthers-stephen-hawking-paul-rowen

The danger, says the Investor's Business Daily, is that he borrows too much from the UK. "The controlling of medical costs in countries such as Britain through rationing, and the health consequences thereof, are legendary. The stories of people dying on a waiting list or being denied altogether read like a horror script ... People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." We say his life is far from worthless, as they do at Addenbrooke's hospital, Cambridge, where Professor Hawking, who has motor neurone disease, was treated for chest problems in April. As indeed does he. "I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS," he told us. "I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived." Something here is worthless. And it's not him.

[Cain]

Did they really believe Hawking was American or something?

[Iason Ouabache]

Did they really believe Hawking was American or something?

Well, he does speak in an American accent. 

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

sheesh.
yeah, maybe if his voice doodad sounded english...