Why is Discordia Irrelevant in the Year 2009?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

If we were relevent then there would be no need for us.  We are Discordians, Eris is our main squeeze because she was not considered relevent, she was considered disruptive and outside the norm.  The question should be more along the lines of, "Should we be worried about becoming relevent?"  I mean, to me relevence means that someone recognizes the movement as a movement, and THEY should see us as "Lone Gunmen" so to speak.  If we were a movement we would be a target for disruption and removal.  Sure we hang out on the forum and have a bit of a giggle at the expense of the Thudians, but THEY don't see that as a threat.

Any group that opposes the status quo becomes a threat.  But individuals are ignored for the most part while they quietly rewrite the worlds code to bring some small enlightenment to the ones who can turn their brains on to what the deal is with the unreality of reality.

The only thing that can kill Discordia is success.

Do you mean success, or do you mean popularity? Because I'm not even really sure what success IS, in terms of Discordianism.

My dear Nigel, noone should have a clue what success would mean for Discordianism.  But in the conventional sense I suppose that would mean a church on many a corner in major metropolitan areas where there are a hookas and a circles of pillows instead of pews, and the holy communion is a hotdog sans bun.  Then Mal2 could have an audience with the Pope where he offers him the golden apple of Kalissti, and go tag "Eris Rules" on the wailing wall.

No one.  NO.  ONE.  TWO WORDS.

TGRR,
IS RICHARD.  FUCKING.  CHEESE!

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[Payne]

If we were relevent then there would be no need for us.  We are Discordians, Eris is our main squeeze because she was not considered relevent, she was considered disruptive and outside the norm.  The question should be more along the lines of, "Should we be worried about becoming relevent?"  I mean, to me relevence means that someone recognizes the movement as a movement, and THEY should see us as "Lone Gunmen" so to speak.  If we were a movement we would be a target for disruption and removal.  Sure we hang out on the forum and have a bit of a giggle at the expense of the Thudians, but THEY don't see that as a threat.

Any group that opposes the status quo becomes a threat.  But individuals are ignored for the most part while they quietly rewrite the worlds code to bring some small enlightenment to the ones who can turn their brains on to what the deal is with the unreality of reality.

The only thing that can kill Discordia is success.

Do you mean success, or do you mean popularity? Because I'm not even really sure what success IS, in terms of Discordianism.

My dear Nigel, noone should have a clue what success would mean for Discordianism.  But in the conventional sense I suppose that would mean a church on many a corner in major metropolitan areas where there are a hookas and a circles of pillows instead of pews, and the holy communion is a hotdog sans bun.  Then Mal2 could have an audience with the Pope where he offers him the golden apple of Kalissti, and go tag "Eris Rules" on the wailing wall.

No one.  NO.  ONE.  TWO WORDS.

TGRR,
IS RICHARD.  FUCKING.  CHEESE!

Only person who could ever pull off "Noone" is now dead from a horde of angry, short-changed rent boys.

I miss HSD 

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

I figure that to a great extent, discordianism has already BEEN successful. I mean, discordia has influenced a lot of things in the 'main stream' without becoming itself 'main stream' -- the way to tell this is because the PD and various other older discordian things started out seeming quite new and shiny and innovative, and now seem derivative, DESPITE PREDATING those things that it reminds you of. This is also the case with things like The Invisibles, the novels of Isaac Asimov, etc. Cultural osmosis has leaked the content without leaking the source. The fact that (relatively) mainstream things like V for Vendetta, DEVO, The Matrix, THHGttG, Discworld, Pi, and The Number 23 were either influenced by discordian works or influenced by works influenced by discordian works indicates this.

(NB: this post may not make sense. I am working on little sleep and no food. I may edit later)

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It's also possible that those ideas were reached independently.

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

It's possible. But what matters is that they were reached. If the goal occurs, it doesn't really matter whether or not the mechanism worked as expected.

[LMNO]

Unfortunately, Enki has a point. If mainstream society is behaving in a more Discordian fashion than they used to, what does it matter if they read a stupid pamphlet written by a bunch of acid freaks or not? Our principles remain valid.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Unfortunately, Enki has a point.

I don't have to like it.

If mainstream society is behaving in a more Discordian fashion than they used to, what does it matter if they read a stupid pamphlet written by a bunch of acid freaks or not? Our principles remain valid.

Since when does "valid" matter?  I just want to see shit fall over.  Because I hate monkeys.  I hate everything about them, but mostly I hate how they will take anything nice, and fuck it up with their monkeyness (for proof of which I need only point at the bill of rights).  I want to see Fat City tear itself into pieces, catch fire, fall over, and sink into the swamp.  I have been stockpiling smores for this very occasion.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I was being serious.  

TGRR,
Is pretty sure you knew that.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It was the s'mores that got me.

[Halfbaked1]

Unfortunately, Enki has a point.

I don't have to like it.

If mainstream society is behaving in a more Discordian fashion than they used to, what does it matter if they read a stupid pamphlet written by a bunch of acid freaks or not? Our principles remain valid.

Since when does "valid" matter?  I just want to see shit fall over.  Because I hate monkeys.  I hate everything about them, but mostly I hate how they will take anything nice, and fuck it up with their monkeyness (for proof of which I need only point at the bill of rights).  I want to see Fat City tear itself into pieces, catch fire, fall over, and sink into the swamp.  I have been stockpiling smores for this very occasion.

I am the Halfbaked1, and I approve of this message.  Not that TGRR gives a flying rip, but I do.

[Z³]

the relevancy of discordia is irrelevant

[Kai]

Discordia is irrelevant because discordians spend more time infighting than they do out fighting.

[LMNO]

Fuck you, Kai.

[Kai]

Fuck you, Kai.

QED.