Roger's Got a Brand New Bag

[Payne]

Anarchy–noun
1.    a state of society without government or law.
2.    political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
3.    a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
4.    confusion; chaos; disorder.

Definition three doesn't sound that bad to me. Why should someone I don't know and will never meet decide what's in my best interest?

Ooh! And just look at definition number four!

Humans, being human, will ALWAYS fuck up that kind of model. Personally, the only way I can see it working at all is in a more primativist society than we have just now.

You do like your computers and your electric guitars and all that shit don't you?

And, as is usual in these kind of definitions, they kinda fuck up by mixing up "chaos" and "disorder". That's NO definition that I would use to describe any of my beliefs.

[Dimocritus]

Anarchy–noun
1.    a state of society without government or law.
2.    political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
3.    a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
4.    confusion; chaos; disorder.

Definition three doesn't sound that bad to me. Why should someone I don't know and will never meet decide what's in my best interest?

Ooh! And just look at definition number four!

Humans, being human, will ALWAYS fuck up that kind of model. Personally, the only way I can see it working at all is in a more primativist society than we have just now.

You do like your computers and your electric guitars and all that shit don't you?

And, as is usual in these kind of definitions, they kinda fuck up by mixing up "chaos" and "disorder". That's NO definition that I would use to describe any of my beliefs.

You are correct in your assertion that human beings will always fuck up the anarchistic model, although you fell short by not including any other form of government in with your statement. Democracy, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism; all fall short of their projected expectations when the human factor is involved. At this point (obviously) there is no government model that could go unaffected by human factors such as greed and corruption. All of life is a catch 22. What's a guy to do?

Also, me pointing out definition number four was more for the irony and lulz than anything else.

I'm not an anarchist, anyway. I just have a general distaste for the way things are now, so until things change I'm doing every thing I can to remain outside any system.

[Payne]

Anarchy–noun
1.    a state of society without government or law.
2.    political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
3.    a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
4.    confusion; chaos; disorder.

Definition three doesn't sound that bad to me. Why should someone I don't know and will never meet decide what's in my best interest?

Ooh! And just look at definition number four!

Humans, being human, will ALWAYS fuck up that kind of model. Personally, the only way I can see it working at all is in a more primativist society than we have just now.

You do like your computers and your electric guitars and all that shit don't you?

And, as is usual in these kind of definitions, they kinda fuck up by mixing up "chaos" and "disorder". That's NO definition that I would use to describe any of my beliefs.

You are correct in your assertion that human beings will always fuck up the anarchistic model, although you fell short by not including any other form of government in with your statement. Democracy, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism; all fall short of their projected expectations when the human factor is involved. At this point (obviously) there is no government model that could go unaffected by human factors such as greed and corruption. All of life is a catch 22. What's a guy to do?

Also, me pointing out definition number four was more for the irony and lulz than anything else.

So what you're saying is that you could do without your guitars and computers? Why aren't you out there making it happen? WHY NOT START NOW?!

Fuck, I'm going to agree with Roger on this one.

[Dimocritus]

Please re-read and refrain from trying to put words in my mouth. It's unbecoming.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Anarchy–noun
1.    a state of society without government or law.
2.    political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
3.    a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
4.    confusion; chaos; disorder.

Definition three doesn't sound that bad to me. Why should someone I don't know and will never meet decide what's in my best interest?

Ooh! And just look at definition number four!

If you like definition #3, move to Mogadishu.  They have no coercive government there.  It will be paradise.

Option #4 is incorrect, from a Discordian point of view.  Chaos contains both order and disorder.  This is why the chiefs of staff at the Pentagon are automatically knighted upon taking the position.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

You are correct in your assertion that human beings will always fuck up the anarchistic model, although you fell short by not including any other form of government in with your statement. Democracy, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism; all fall short of their projected expectations when the human factor is involved. At this point (obviously) there is no government model that could go unaffected by human factors such as greed and corruption. All of life is a catch 22. What's a guy to do?

Also, me pointing out definition number four was more for the irony and lulz than anything else.

I'm not an anarchist, anyway. I just have a general distaste for the way things are now, so until things change I'm doing every thing I can to remain outside any system.

The thing is, those other systems WORK, with the exception of communism, which fails for the same reason anarchy does.

[Kai]

The constitution is powerless to stop the oligarchy. Which is why the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Blood of Patriots and tyrants.

[fomenter]

You are correct in your assertion that human beings will always fuck up the anarchistic model, although you fell short by not including any other form of government in with your statement. Democracy, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism; all fall short of their projected expectations when the human factor is involved. At this point (obviously) there is no government model that could go unaffected by human factors such as greed and corruption. All of life is a catch 22. What's a guy to do?

Also, me pointing out definition number four was more for the irony and lulz than anything else.

I'm not an anarchist, anyway. I just have a general distaste for the way things are now, so until things change I'm doing every thing I can to remain outside any system.

The thing is, those other systems WORK, with the exception of communism, which fails for the same reason anarchy does.

damn humans.... refusing to behave in accordance with a system built on ideals that don't account for human nature...

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The constitution is powerless to stop the oligarchy. Which is why the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Blood of Patriots and tyrants.

SORRY, MY SHOW IS ON.  MAYBE TOMORROW.
\

[The Good Reverend Roger]

damn humans.... refusing to behave in accordance with a system built on ideals that don't account for human nature...

Yeah, they keep Dimo from doing whatever he wants to whomever he wants.

Not that Dimo would last an hour in an anarchist environment, mind you.

[fomenter]

its funny how few anarchist would survive the system they want    
i should get a gov grant to study the phenomena..... is there any acreage available for sale out where the bartertown set was?

[Epimetheus]

its funny how few anarchist would survive the system they want    

yeah...but if one understands that and still wants it to happen, it's not hypocrisy.

[fomenter]

its funny how few anarchist would survive the system they want    

yeah...but if one understands that and still wants it to happen, it's not hypocrisy a violent ass rape fetish .

fixed

[Dimocritus]

I'm not an anarchist, anyway. I just have a general distaste for the way things are now, so until things change I'm doing every thing I can to remain outside any system.

Please direct all responses to the inconspicuous straw-man.

The thing is, those other systems WORK, with the exception of communism, which fails for the same reason anarchy does.

Do they? That explains why we're all in the shit-house here, I guess. If you call that working...

[Dimocritus]

damn humans.... refusing to behave in accordance with a system built on ideals that don't account for human nature...

Yeah, they keep Dimo from doing whatever he wants to whomever he wants.

Not that Dimo would last an hour in an anarchist environment, mind you.

Also, what leads you to beleive I am sooooo incapable? Strange for someone to have such a developed opinion of someone that you do not know...