kabbalah

[mobbing]

which books about the kabbalah did you read?

I am through
the power of the kabbalah by Yehuda Berg
this is rather a normal religion book

and started whith
the high kabbalah by Bran O. Hodapp
I just started but it is ... well crazy

which books do you recommand me?

[Colonel Failure]

I'm afraid I am unable to provide any meaningful response to this inquiry. Instead, I will offer this advice:



Get dental insurance.
    - Observation # 13

[Horab Fibslager]

i'd recomend whatever books madonna and britney spears have read.

[Iron Sulfide]

i'm actually reading a book right now called the Essential Kabbalah

it's fucking weird, i think, how similar a lot of aspects
of kabbalism are to Zen and Tao...

here, let me get my book and quote some...

"The Name Of Nothingness"

the depthof primordial being is called Boundless. Because
of it's concealment from all creatures above and below, it is
also called Nothingness. if one asks, 'What is It?" the answer is
"Nothing," meaning: no one can understand anything
about it. It is negated of every conception. no one can knowanything about it- exccept the belief that it exists.
it's existencecannot be grasped by anyone other than it. therefore,
its name is "I am Becoming."

or

"Being and Nothingness"

...Being is in Nothingness in the mode of Nothingness, and
Nothingness is in Being in the Mode of Being. Nothingness is
Being, and Being is Nothingness.

"The Morror of Thought"

Thought is like a mirror. One looking at it sees his own image
inside and thinks that there are two images, but the two images
are really one.

[and one of my favouritepassages from kabbalah...think literal]

"Beyond Knowing"
The inner, subtle essences can be contemplated only by
sucking, not by knowing... (Read my sig)


if that's not Zen like, what is?

here's my favourite passage though

"Creative Arousal"

the world could be created only by virtue of the action of the
righteous, the arousal of those below. so God contemplated
the good deeds of the righteous- yet to be created- and this
act of thinking was enough to actualize the thought. god drew forth
light from within himself and delighted himself with holy people,
like those who would eventually be. This joy engendered undulation,
greater delight. in the bliss of contemplating the righteous, of
imagining holy people, in this fluctuation, the power to create was born.


ahem, rough translation:

god spunked us into exsitence, using the coming martyrs and saints and
other holy men as "arousal" material. we are god's spunk!

[chaosgraves:agentoferis]

i'd recomend whatever books madonna and britney spears have read.

i'd recomend that madonna and britney spears show up at my house naked.

[mobbing]

I'll try this Essential Kabbalah. thanks Saint*Bastard

I also found a lot of things similar to taoism, zen, Rudolf Steiner (he, believing this book, actually consulted the kabbalah for his science)
but what I find weirdest about all, it is all linked with the bible

[Bella]

I just read a book called "Bee Season", which starts off as a somewhat boring little novel about a young girl in a spelling bee and turns into a brilliant story about the Kabbalah. Fascinating. It made me go looking for the works of Abulafia, who wrote some amazing books in the 12th century or thereabouts. But I can't find any of his stuff in English.

[MaxwellsDemon]

Oky doke,
Now bear in mind the quabbala is actually a red herring, in that its fun elaborate correspondences are about as much occult use as learning pure logic (mmm hang on a minute..) but here are some required reading if ya dig.
Dion Fortune - The mystical quabbala
Don Milo Duquette - the chicken kabbala
William G Gray- Qabalistic concepts (ooh look practical things)
Ol Uncle al Crowley - 777
Israel Regardie - "The midle Pillar" and "Garden of Pomegranites" you might also check the complete golden dawn if solar centric mason-love floats ya boat.
Anyhoos have fun, if gematria an that be considered thus.

[Irreverend Hugh, KSC]

Kaballah?

Ooh...bad memories from my early occult days.

[Iron Sulfide]

i also recall something about a book called "the Dark Kabbala" from avon
i think it was...possibly the Black Kabbala...iono

you might find it at http://loompanics.com , where i originally saw it.

(the same place i bought my copy of the principia)

[Anonymous]

The dark kabbala... that'd be them ther qlippoths...

[Malaul]

and their what now?

[Bella]

Gotta watch out for them ther qlippoths...


PS: Qlippoths are failed creations of God, Malaul.
Intellectual black holes, so to speak.

[Iron Sulfide]

like lillith, or that thing God created from one of adam's vertibrae (i think
it was his vertibrae...correct me if i'm mistaken) before lillith...she
was supposedly massively deformed and ugly (hey, even God makes
mistakes...wait a second!!!  : )

[Irreverend Hugh, KSC]

Ack! Ack!

::remembers seeing fnords::

::vomits::