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Started by Kai, September 18, 2009, 07:39:04 PM

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Kai

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 04:34:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:17:20 AM

I don't get it.  Since when does "tolerance" apply to fucking NAZIS?  Tolerance is, AFAIK, the principle of live and let live, accepting other peoples' behavior and traits, provided they do not directly harm others.  Torture perverts don't count.

Because people who condone torture are in the majority.

They still don't count.

They don't, and it doesn't matter.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 04:34:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:17:20 AM

I don't get it.  Since when does "tolerance" apply to fucking NAZIS?  Tolerance is, AFAIK, the principle of live and let live, accepting other peoples' behavior and traits, provided they do not directly harm others.  Torture perverts don't count.

Because people who condone torture are in the majority.

They still don't count.

They don't, and it doesn't matter.

Still, they should be punished.

I say we start a movement to torture common criminals.  For speeding tickets, maybe.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Kai

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 05:43:28 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 04:34:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:17:20 AM

I don't get it.  Since when does "tolerance" apply to fucking NAZIS?  Tolerance is, AFAIK, the principle of live and let live, accepting other peoples' behavior and traits, provided they do not directly harm others.  Torture perverts don't count.

Because people who condone torture are in the majority.

They still don't count.

They don't, and it doesn't matter.

Still, they should be punished.

I say we start a movement to torture common criminals.  For speeding tickets, maybe.

I think that's disgusting.

Kai,

is better than them.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 06:17:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 05:43:28 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 04:34:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:17:20 AM

I don't get it.  Since when does "tolerance" apply to fucking NAZIS?  Tolerance is, AFAIK, the principle of live and let live, accepting other peoples' behavior and traits, provided they do not directly harm others.  Torture perverts don't count.

Because people who condone torture are in the majority.

They still don't count.

They don't, and it doesn't matter.

Still, they should be punished.

I say we start a movement to torture common criminals.  For speeding tickets, maybe.

I think that's disgusting.

Kai,

is better than them.

Kai, Kai, Kai...Monkeys have to learn things the hard way.  Usually that used to mean having a war every generation.  WWII was so awful that we learned a thing or two about inhumane treatment of prisoners.

But it's been a while, and the monkeys have forgotten.  So perhaps it's negative reinforcement time again.  The best part is, all we have to do is give them what they clamor for...what they've been DEMANDING.

Once a few of them get their fingernails torn off, they'll learn what we learned at the German and Japanese war crime trials.  Hell, Kai, we've even abandoned the concept that "just following orders" is no excuse.

No, Kai.  It's time to step back and let the monkeys pound some sense into each others' heads.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Kai

Then I refuse to have any part of it.

There is some shit I just won't eat.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Corvidia

Jesus, Kai. They sound pretty awful, and I'm glad to hear you're out of there.
While I agree that getting back at them isn't worth your career, I don't think you ought to let them get away with shit like this. You could file your own complaints. If they can nail you with walking out, you can nail them for being socialist-hating ass holes and if you really wanted to get back at them, you could possibly use the gender/sexuality politics issue to get them. You said you were the token bi tranny? You could claim they discriminated against you for what you are, in addition to your politics.

Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 06:50:47 PM
Then I refuse to have any part of it.

There is some shit I just won't eat.
I don't think he was suggesting you get involved. More like step back and watch.

Quote from: Cain on September 22, 2009, 09:38:57 AM
Well that is the failing of neoclassical economics.

Strangely enough, most of the original classical economists were well aware of these problems, and made it clear they were (The Wealth of Nations, where Smith talks about how much more those who own the means of production are paid compared to the worker, who does the majority of the work, for example.  Or the degrading nature of some of those types of work, which would reduce the craftsman into a relic of a bygone era).  
^ This. And I don't think I've ever met a libertarian who's aware of that. I keep pointing that (and other things) out to a libertarian I've been arguing health care with, but she seems to ignore it.
One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Kai on September 23, 2009, 06:50:47 PM
Then I refuse to have any part of it.

There is some shit I just won't eat.

That's the beauty of it.  You don't have to do a thing.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.