The ghost fleet of the recession anchored just east of Singapore

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Somebody's going to have to invent teleportation right soon now.

Yeah, so we can start teleporting bombs into each others' capitols.



TGRR,
Understands monkeys.

Oh, it'll be much worse than that. If the general populace have the ability to move about the globe unrestricted, borders and governments will lose all meaning.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Somebody's going to have to invent teleportation right soon now.

Yeah, so we can start teleporting bombs into each others' capitols.



TGRR,
Understands monkeys.

Oh, it'll be much worse than that. If the general populace have the ability to move about the globe unrestricted, borders and governments will lose all meaning.

Or we'll wind up with one really big government.

muhaha

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Very likely... but with a virtually unpolicable population. Actually, first thing that would happen is we'd all get chipped.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm sensing a little hostility here.

[Cain]

Its been a long day, and I'm cranky.  I thought my point was pretty clear.

Sorry Nigel

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I figured you were making a joke.

Sometimes I react to jokes by taking them completely literally.

What point were you trying to make? I did not see one. Also I did not see any metaphor.

[Cain]

Tyranncide is a cure for many ills.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Truth. And I imagine that would be a major factor preventing a tyrranical government from forming... no tyrant would survive long enough to impose a tyrrany.

[Cain]

Well, tyrannicide is actually only a cure for a single ill, but yeah.

Anyway, Roger's point about the infrastructure rings scarily true.  This means, even if the economy does recover enough to be able to cause demand, there won't be the stuff in place to allow for mass spending like there was previously, whether or not we think that is a good thing.

I wonder what will go next?  Presumably, the thing to do will be to watch how Singapore, Hong Kong and other major trading cities cope with the massively lowered amount of trade, and see how that would apply to us.

[Jenne]

Less goods, which also become more expensive.  I guess in general it's a great thing that the US is turning their debt around and saving more...they're going to need it if their buying power's going to be maintained in any way, shape or form.

What I'm wondering now is if "buying power" will cease to be the leading indicator of wealth since it's obviously overtaken GNP/GDP the last 2 decades.

[Triple Zero]

another bright point: with less stuff moving around all over the globe, swine flu will be less wide spread

ok its a far shot, and doesnt really make sense. meh.

but still, how many people can live inside such a cargo ship if you decorate the lot a littlebit? i'm kind of thinking of an industrial techno rave cruise

[fomenter]

rogers point makes it a tough idea to make a reality,
maintenance upkeep fuel and knowledgeable crew aren't cheap , how many offshore gambling nights, pirate raids smuggling trips do you need to make each month to keep it afloat crewed, gassed up to travel and supporting the hippie discordian floating party??

[Triple Zero]

no, for 4000 you buy the boat, but for 7000 you charter it for one trip transporting cargo (which would include fuel and maintenance and shit cause normally you'd pay that for the cargo to get wherever it's supposed to go?).

hell no way im gonna run a boat myself.

[Rumckle]

surely with all the various skills we have on here, we must have a few able seamen (giggle)

[fomenter]

no, for 4000 you buy the boat, but for 7000 you charter it for one trip transporting cargo (which would include fuel and maintenance and shit cause normally you'd pay that for the cargo to get wherever it's supposed to go?).

hell no way im gonna run a boat myself.

the direction things are going (and looking at the already low price of tickets ) we may be able to charter a luxury cruse liner for almost the same price soon....