Unlimited "Glenn Beck is a nutter" thread

[BabylonHoruv]

Teddy Roosevelt: big government socialist

In an apparent reference to John McCain, Beck condemned a "guy in the Republican Party who says his favorite president is Theodore Roosevelt." He then read disapprovingly the Roosevelt quote that "we grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used . . . so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community."

"Is this what the Republican Party stands for?" Beck demanded. He was answered with boos and cries of "no!" "It's big government, it's a socialist utopia and we need to address it as if it is a cancer."

Now to be fair, Teddy was probably the only man to shake a fist in J. P. Morgan's face and not end up face-down in a ditch anywhere, but I remember only a few years ago some major league wingnuts were swooning over Teddy due to his macho foreign adventurism.  The appeal is pretty obvious, once you read a bio of the man: he was a priggish, sheltered, fat nerd who overcame all that by a nearly Nietzschean Will to Power which made it impossible for him to stand down from any percieved threat.  But anyway, TR is out.  Who is next for a chop from wingnut mythology?

Abraham Lincoln.

I've been trying to convince them to cut Eisenhower for being soft on commies.

Eisenhower as a tax and spend liberal, look at his social programs.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Reagan's crime against humanity was deregulation, which led to the horrific health care, human individual status of corporations, soaring interest rates and credit crash of today, so let's not imagine that his comparatively humanitarian stance on terrorism was somehow significant relative to the overall structural damage he did to our economy and social structure. Of course, Clinton did his part with globalization and "world trade". Frankly, from opposite sides of the coin, Carter and Bush Sr. were probably the least damaging Presidents in my lifetime. No comment on Ford, I don't know enough about him. I should look his ass up.

[Bruno]

Agreed, Nigel.
Jeezus, I never thought I would look back on the Bush Sr. administration with nostalgia.

[Earthbound Spirit]

I don't think Ford was a bad President.  If he hadn't pardoned Nixon he quite possibly would of won reelection and we wouldn't of had to suffer through Jimmy Carter.

[Cain]

Given Ford had Rumsfeld and Cheney as his Chiefs of Staff, I cant see anything good coming of his administration.  Ford also raised Bush Sr's stature quite a lot (liason to China, CIA director).  Helsinki Accords was smart, not condemning the invasion of Cyprus was stupid, letting Kissinger conduct diplomacy between Israel and the Arab states was stupid, trying to throw money at South Vietnam was stupid and the Mayaguez incident was really stupid.

Squeaky Fromme also tried to off him though, so he can't have been all bad.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Well, pardoning Nixon makes him alright in my eyes.

[Earthbound Spirit]

I'm pretty sure the pardon was part of the "deal" when Nixon left so I shouldn't blame Ford for his failure to get reelected. 

Carter was a joke and continues to be one. 

[Kai]

I'm pretty sure the pardon was part of the "deal" when Nixon left so I shouldn't blame Ford for his failure to get reelected. 

Carter was a joke and continues to be one. 

Maybe as a president, but as a humanitarian he's something else.

[Earthbound Spirit]

True.

[Kai]

Which incidentally, I think is hilarious.

Here comes this nice guy, gets elected leader of the worlds greatest economic and military power, and he does a crap job because he's not mean enough.   

[Earthbound Spirit]

I wouldn't say the "crap job" is all attributable for not being mean enough but enough of him.

Obama is going to be a worse President than Carter.   

[Cain]

Thanks cain. 

also this http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/1/832706/-How-progressives-can-turn-the-Reagan-myth-on-its-head!

Reagan would not have approved of drone-fired missile attacks aimed at killing terrorists; as president he several times rejected anti-terrorism operations for the sole reason that civilians would have been killed by collateral damage. In 1985, he surprised aides such as Pat Buchanan by ruling out a military response to a Beirut hijacking for fear of civilian casualties; Lou Cannon reported then in the Washington Post that Reagan said "retaliation in which innocent civilians are killed is 'itself a terrorist act.'"

so yeah.  meanwhile, Obama is a communist for unleashing an army of killer robots on an americam ally.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I kinda think most people don't really know enough about Carter, beyond the popular folklore, to comment.

Kai, I think you're probably one of the few who does.

Anyone who actually reads up on the man (and his wife) and doesn't respect them needs a head check.

[Cain]

Jonah Goldberg is now taking his marching orders from Glenn Beck, it seems http://wonkette.com/413869/jonah-goldberg-decides-next-wingnut-target-is-teddy-roosevelt

[Doktor Howl]

I'm pretty sure the pardon was part of the "deal" when Nixon left so I shouldn't blame Ford for his failure to get reelected. 

Carter was a joke and continues to be one. 

Yeah, except for having the best job creation figures of any president, ever.

Isn't talk radio brainwashing wonderful?