Reminder: its OK to be a pedo, if your name is Roman Polanski

[Jenne]

...yeah, I didn't get that either.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

What is the difference between rape and rape-rape.  Is rape-rape when he asks pretty please before the assault?  Great insight there Whoopi.  Thumbs up!

I think she ignorantly assumed it was consensual statutory rape, versus non-consensual drugged rape.

Woopifail

[AFK]

Yeah, because that would make him a real winner too. 

[Cain]

Interesting.  Poking around a few cesspools of the internet, it seems the consensus is that all these celebrity pals of Polanksi speaking out "proves" that left-liberalism is all about soft headed approval of child rape (ignore for a moment that Anne Applebaum is well on the right, as is her husband, Poland's current foreign minister who is attempting to intervene on Polanksi's behalf).

However, more subtle reading would suggest, far from Hollywood being driven to NAMBLA membership from reading too much Karl Marx, celebrities and those in high society, and those who wish to be part of high society, are more willing than not to excuse the crimes committed by members of those esteemed circles.  In short, because someone like them committed the crime, they automatically ascribe to the theory that excuses their actions the most, regardless or not if they make sense.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Yeah, because that would make him a real winner too. 

Well in context, she's talking about how girls at 13, 14 years old are perceived differently in Europe than in the US.

We're a different kind of society. We see things differently. The world sees 13-year-olds and 14-year-olds in the rest of Europe... not everybody agrees with the way we see things...

I think she was trying to make a point that was not applicable (since drugging people and having sex with them is generally considered rape in Europe as well) and very poorly stated.

[AFK]

And it's that same kind of fuck-nut logic used to defend waterboarding, because, well, it isn't torture-torture. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

And it's that same kind of fuck-nut logic used to defend waterboarding, because, well, it isn't torture-torture. 

In this case I would agree. I think there are some cases where Statutory rape is probably not at all related to actual rape... from what I've read of Polanski though, this doesn't seem to be the case.

I did read an interesting piece which said that the French response to this may have a lot to do with an apparently botched case in 2004 where a pedophile ring was captured in northern France and several people were convicted, before it came to light that they were all innocent. So according to that article, at least, there is apparently some distrust between the French people and the legal systems Sex Offender policies. I dunno much about that though.

[Jean-Lustine d'Hadamard]

In short, because someone like them committed the crime, they automatically ascribe to the theory that excuses their actions the most, regardless or not if they make sense.

Yes.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Whoopi Goldberg defended rape.  

[AFK]

And people watch that show to get "the news". 

[Z³]

I still like his films.
I don't care if he goes to jail.

The U.S. was bound to catch up with him at some point anyway, if he wanted to stay out of jail he should have stayed in france.
That he was lured into a false sense of security regarding switzerland is his own fault. Anyway, the whole thing has all the elements of a greek tragedy, including the hubris of the main character being his eventual downfall.

[Shibboleet The Annihilator]

http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape+rape

I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like "You know what, this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail, I'm not staying", so that's why he left.

P.S. Whoopi Goldberg is, and always has been, a retarded ignorant cunt who commits regular acts of epic fail as a "comedian" and a human being.

[Triple Zero]

Yeah, because that would make him a real winner too. 

Well in context, she's talking about how girls at 13, 14 years old are perceived differently in Europe than in the US.

We’re a different kind of society. We see things differently. The world sees 13-year-olds and 14-year-olds in the rest of Europe… not everybody agrees with the way we see things…

I think she was trying to make a point that was not applicable (since drugging people and having sex with them is generally considered rape in Europe as well) and very poorly stated.

Wait, what "we" in that sentence is about Europe???? Maybe in Italy, if your name is Berlusconi?

[LMNO]

I think there are some cases where Statutory rape is probably not at all related to actual rape... from what I've read of Polanski though, this doesn't seem to be the case.

I think Rat is trying to say there might be a difference between a sober 13-year-old pleading, "fuck me in the ass!" and a drugged up 13-year-old screaming "stop!"  Both are rape, however.






Wow.  Writing that just creeped me out.

[Cain]

Trip, I believe in Spain the age of consent is 13, and in many Eastern European countries it is closer to 14 than 18.  I suspect that was what was being hinted at.

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....