Reminder: its OK to be a pedo, if your name is Roman Polanski

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I think there are some cases where Statutory rape is probably not at all related to actual rape... from what I've read of Polanski though, this doesn't seem to be the case.

I think Rat is trying to say there might be a difference between a sober 13-year-old pleading, "fuck me in the ass!" and a drugged up 13-year-old screaming "stop!"  Both are rape, however.






Wow.  Writing that just creeped me out.

I think that's pretty close to correct. There are instances where a person under the age of consent may be wanting, willing and waiting... and there may be someone older (not even old, just say... 19 or 20) and that is statutory rape... but it doesn't seem anything like drugging a person and fucking them after they beg you to stop. The former is a Very Bad Choice, but probably more closely linked with what is socially acceptable in your area. The later is a horrific act (raep-raep) and we might want to consider castration.


And all of this could have been avoided if Roman had just called 'Surprise!' first.

[LMNO]

The former, to me, is also pretty messed up... especially if it's 44-year-old guy doing the fucking.

[AFK]

If you approach it from a brain development point of view, even if a 13 year old says yes, it isn't the same thing as a 23 year old saying yes. The 23 year old has a different context and set of experiences they are working from, usually.  The 13 year old, probably not so much.   

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The former, to me, is also pretty messed up... especially if it's 44-year-old guy doing the fucking.

If you approach it from a brain development point of view, even if a 13 year old says yes, it isn't the same thing as a 23 year old saying yes. The 23 year old has a different context and set of experiences they are working from, usually.  The 13 year old, probably not so much.   

I agree 100% and in this case he drugged her and she said No... so there's no real question in my mind that he was pretty messed up.

I got hit on by an underage girl once. She was, in all honesty HOT. However, its exactly the point RWHN made  that made me say "Uh, NO". Which was weird, because a few years before that, when I was still a JW, it would have been the "OMGZ that is illegal" that would have made me run away.

Additionally, thirteen year old girls that want to fuck adults may have something problematic going on in their head, just as the adult that indulges them does. The book 'Lolita' made that point rather well. I felt sorry for Lolita and Humbert, they both appeared completely screwed in their programming.

[LMNO]

I will agree that if a 13-year old girl is asking to be sodomized by a 44-year-old any man, she's undoubtedly asking for something completely different.  Like professional help, for example.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I will agree that if a 13-year old girl is asking to be sodomized by a 44-year-old any man, she's undoubtedly asking for something completely different.  Like professional help, for example.

100% TROOF

I could ALMOST agree that a 13 year old girl might be in the beginning of puberty and have hormones (esp on the diet we eat in the West)... so MAYBE asking someone for sex isn't specifically cause they are psycho... sodomy in that siituation though would seem born out of some serious psychological issues.

Either way, adults should "Just say No!"

[Jean-Lustine d'Hadamard]

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....

Well, there should be very little reason even for the existence of an age-of-consent statute there, surely(!)

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....

Well, there should be very little reason even for the existence of an age-of-consent statute there, surely(!)

Well, as long as you tell the priest about it afterward, it doesn't really matter what age or sex the person is... right?

[hooplala]

Just wanted to say that the sentiment expressed in the subject line has pissed me off for a few years now as I've encountered it every single time someone has brought up some Polanski film they like, and I explain why I won't support him or his work.

Poor woman though - I bet she wishes this would just all go away - it would have been a dead story decades ago if Polanski had served his time and faded into obscurity rather than serving himself via his career. Way to drag out the pain, fuckhead.

If Einstein were a rapist, would you deny the theory of relativity?

[Fuquad]

Just wanted to say that the sentiment expressed in the subject line has pissed me off for a few years now as I've encountered it every single time someone has brought up some Polanski film they like, and I explain why I won't support him or his work.

Poor woman though - I bet she wishes this would just all go away - it would have been a dead story decades ago if Polanski had served his time and faded into obscurity rather than serving himself via his career. Way to drag out the pain, fuckhead.

If Einstein were a rapist, would you deny the theory of relativity?

I sure as hell wouldn't BUY his paper on it.

[Triple Zero]

Trip, I believe in Spain the age of consent is 13, and in many Eastern European countries it is closer to 14 than 18.  I suspect that was what was being hinted at.

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....

wow, okay. I didn't know that.

If Einstein were a rapist, would you deny the theory of relativity?

absolutely.

you gotta draw the line somewhere, and if there's PROOF of rape, but only a THEORY of relativity, you should deny it out of principle.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Trip, I believe in Spain the age of consent is 13, and in many Eastern European countries it is closer to 14 than 18.  I suspect that was what was being hinted at.

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....

wow, okay. I didn't know that.

If Einstein were a rapist, would you deny the theory of relativity?

absolutely.

you gotta draw the line somewhere, and if there's PROOF of rape, but only a THEORY of relativity, you should deny it out of principle.

But what if the rape is accomplished by Spooky Action at a Distance?

[Cain]

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....

Well, there should be very little reason even for the existence of an age-of-consent statute there, surely(!)

Those little Cesare Borgia's and villains of Dan Brown novel's have to come from somewhere.

wow, okay. I didn't know that.

Yeah, most of northern Europe seems to draw the line at 16, or 15 in some rare cases.  But the Baltic states, central Europe and Spain go even lower.  I believe Gary Glitter actually attempted to take advantage of the Spanish law quite recently, taking a holiday on the French border (before the French realized what was up and bundled him back to the UK for using their country as a useful jumping pad for his pedo-hunts).

[Bruno]

Trip, I believe in Spain the age of consent is 13, and in many Eastern European countries it is closer to 14 than 18.  I suspect that was what was being hinted at.

Also, interestingly, the age of consent in Vatican City is 12.  Hmmm, I wonder why that may be....

wow, okay. I didn't know that.

If Einstein were a rapist, would you deny the theory of relativity?

absolutely.

you gotta draw the line somewhere, and if there's PROOF of rape, but only a THEORY of relativity, you should deny it out of principle.

But what if the rape is accomplished by Spooky Action at a Distance?

Then he would be simultaneously guilty and not guilty, and should be thrown in quantum superprison.

[Cain]

Well, it acts like a superprison, but sometimes it is also a massage parlour, thanks to quantum indeterminancy.