QUESTION: What is your poltical affiliation?

[President Television]

I don't know if I'm an anarchist or not. I mean, I've thought about it, and I don't know for sure if anything would be better without a government. It does provide us with some things that I'm definitely in support of, such as health care(I'm Canadian), welfare, civil services, libraries, etc., but I don't like the government itself. I find the politicians hilariously incompetent. I mean, have you ever seen the House of Commons (or your country's equivalent) on TV?
I guess I don't want to topple the government, I just want to thumb my nose at it. Does that count as anarchy?

[Template]

there's a local election on november 3rd. I'm voting by die roll. again.


RANDOMOCRACY!




many people have told me that this is irresonsible, or that I'm squandering my vote.

Hey -- the outcome is arbitrary, why shouldn't my vote be?









also: for the lulz

I did a lot of picking at random, last election.  I took the voter guide with me, and many times only one local candidate had any kind of blurb submitted.  I think I tended to vote for them, since it suggested they actually CARED.  Not that it guaranteed it, or that it was a good thing, just that it distinguished one of two candidates at all.

[Shibboleet The Annihilator]

I like how Slanket qualified an Anarchist as a dumbass, and someone still voted for it.

Two somebodies now.  I've been an Anarchist for a long time.  I think it's funny that when you call it libertarian socialism it's ok but when you call it Anarchism it's not.  even though the two mean the same damn thing.

You realize anarchy is impossible to achieve right? Even if you could achieve it, why would you want it?

[Cain]

I like how Slanket qualified an Anarchist as a dumbass, and someone still voted for it.

Two somebodies now.  I've been an Anarchist for a long time.  I think it's funny that when you call it libertarian socialism it's ok but when you call it Anarchism it's not.  even though the two mean the same damn thing.

No they don't.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I've been an Anarchist for a long time. 

[rygD]

I am still the only librarian.

[the other anonymous]

I am still the only librarian.

How does one get into that line of work? I heard there were ancient blood-guilds and stuff...

[The Wizard]

I'm a rational anarchist. I realize that it's impossible, but I strive for it anyway. Usually though, I act like a moderate.

[KopyKat253]

I am still the only librarian.

You might be proud to be a librarian but i love liberty.
Screw the french tho... 

[BabylonHoruv]

I like how Slanket qualified an Anarchist as a dumbass, and someone still voted for it.

Two somebodies now.  I've been an Anarchist for a long time.  I think it's funny that when you call it libertarian socialism it's ok but when you call it Anarchism it's not.  even though the two mean the same damn thing.

You realize anarchy is impossible to achieve right? Even if you could achieve it, why would you want it?

Not impossible, they did it in Spain.  And the Ukraine.  It was crushed by communism, but it still existed and didn't fall for internal reasons.

Why would I want it, because it means we only have to deal with one another's monkeys at the lowest level, not amplified by being in power.  people are not inherently good, so there's no way we can trust anyone to rule.

[Cait M. R.]

I don't fuck with politics. To me it's all retarded. So's everything else, to be fair, but considering I have no real choice in political matters and even if I did, humans have an innate ability to ruin everything that is good... not worth it.

I guess belief-wise....

if there was a version of libertarianism that didn't venerate the free market as the one true expression of the human soul, I might be able to get behind that.

Bingo

This.

[Triple Zero]

What did they do in Spain and Ukraine? When or how was this anarchy that actually worked?

[KopyKat253]

I like how Slanket qualified an Anarchist as a dumbass, and someone still voted for it.

Two somebodies now.  I've been an Anarchist for a long time.  I think it's funny that when you call it libertarian socialism it's ok but when you call it Anarchism it's not.  even though the two mean the same damn thing.

You realize anarchy is impossible to achieve right? Even if you could achieve it, why would you want it?

Not impossible, they did it in Spain.  And the Ukraine.  It was crushed by communism, but it still existed and didn't fall for internal reasons.

Why would I want it, because it means we only have to deal with one another's monkeys at the lowest level, not amplified by being in power.  people are not inherently good, so there's no way we can trust anyone to rule.

If it didn't collapse for internal reasons it is because it didn't have any structure. I don't think it was crushed by communism as much as it sucked communism in like a vacuum.

[BabylonHoruv]

What did they do in Spain and Ukraine? When or how was this anarchy that actually worked?

http://www.george-orwell.org/Homage_to_Catalonia/index.html

That's George Orwell's account of Anarchism in Catalonia.  Excellent book on it's own merits.  I can't find one that is as entertaining on Ukraine but Nestor Makhno was an influential man in the Anarchist Black Army and there were sizeable parts of Ukraine which were run in an Anarchist manner.

The error most people make in thinking about anarchism is assuming that it simply means a complete lack of order, which is impossible. What Anarchism means is that the power to make decisions is in the hands of the people, there is no higher authority.  it is a system which requires a much more involved and empowered populous to maintain than any other, but that doesn;t mean it isn't worth it.

Also, Communism did not organically evolve within Ukrainian or Spanish Anarchism, it conquered with sheer force of arms in Ukraine and in Spain the Anarchists, as well as the Republicans and other allies of the Communists against the Fascists were betrayed by the Communists, allowing the Fascists to overrun them all.

[Salty]

What did they do in Spain and Ukraine? When or how was this anarchy that actually worked?

The error most people make in thinking about anarchism is assuming that it simply means a complete lack of order, which is impossible. What Anarchism means is that the power to make decisions is in the hands of the people, there is no higher authority.  it is a system which requires a much more involved and empowered populous to maintain than any other, but that doesn;t mean it isn't worth it.

That right there is what terrifies me.
People. Because they're kind of awful to one another, especially when teacher's gone.

What kind of order do people use without hierarchy?