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TV and the Idea of Beauty

Started by The Johnny, October 07, 2009, 05:38:57 AM

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ohh yah, my bony cunt will saw off your prepubescent dork !!!!!!!!
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

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Quote from: Dimo1138 on October 16, 2009, 04:38:19 AM
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If that's your opinion, then you haven't seen a proper ass kicking.
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Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:43:45 AM




ohh yah, my bony cunt will saw off your prepubescent dork !!!!!!!!

Jesus.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Johnny


Me, the movie industry and nub gossipTM say that shes the hottest thing around!!!!!

How DARE you use the name of god in vain to imply she isnt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Johnny


The beautiful about consensus is relative what amongst different groups.

The consensus amongst different groups of what is beautiful is very relative different.

<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:52:48 AM

The beautiful about consensus is relative what amongst different groups.

The consensus amongst different groups of what is beautiful is very relative different.



Different groups at different times have disparate consensus about beauty.

Except that is not necessarily true. There are a few constants about the perception of human physical beauty, such as symmetry.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Johnny


In a very abstract take on this... beauty is related to ideals and attraction to fertility/health.

Usually asymmetry in physical parts of the body means a malformation and thus, lack of health.

I guess.
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-B.F. Skinner

Triple Zero

Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:43:45 AM
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fuck

can we maybe fucking agree to not post pictures of mutilated bodies except in the "tools for tools" thread?

i have a few friends that went through episodes like this (yes they looked like that) and I really don't like to be reminded of.

you wouldnt fucking post pain series or other disorders for shock value either. just fucking think before you post next time, ok



anyway back on topic,

Quote from: Nigel on October 16, 2009, 04:16:35 AMHow the hell is consensus relative?

can you explain me how the hell it is not?

"Consensus in the English language is defined firstly as unanimous or general agreement; and secondly group solidarity of belief or sentiment."

now, really, think for a little moment. is "unanimous or general agreement" EVER universal? no such thing. it is ALWAYS relative to the group considering the belief.

i don't think there's a word for a universal worldwide belief, it wouldn't be a very useful word either.

and even then, if you insist that consensus be universal (dangerous idea IMO), then still, if somehow you were able to find a belief that is universally shared by everyone, it becomes objective? how's that work? sympathetic magics?
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Quote from: Triple Zero on October 16, 2009, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:43:45 AM
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fuck

can we maybe fucking agree to not post pictures of mutilated bodies except in the "tools for tools" thread?

i have a few friends that went through episodes like this (yes they looked like that) and I really don't like to be reminded of.

you wouldnt fucking post pain series or other disorders for shock value either. just fucking think before you post next time, ok


Fuck you! The assistant to my manicurist died from being reminded of episodes liek this  :argh!:

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Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:52:48 AM

The beautiful about consensus is relative what amongst different groups.

The consensus amongst different groups of what is beautiful is very relative different.



They're all wrong.  I am right.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Triple Zero on October 16, 2009, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 16, 2009, 04:16:35 AMHow the hell is consensus relative?

can you explain me how the hell it is not?

"Consensus in the English language is defined firstly as unanimous or general agreement; and secondly group solidarity of belief or sentiment."

now, really, think for a little moment. is "unanimous or general agreement" EVER universal? no such thing. it is ALWAYS relative to the group considering the belief.

i don't think there's a word for a universal worldwide belief, it wouldn't be a very useful word either.

and even then, if you insist that consensus be universal (dangerous idea IMO), then still, if somehow you were able to find a belief that is universally shared by everyone, it becomes objective? how's that work? sympathetic magics?

Nonono. I was poking (tongue-in-cheek) fun of the fact that his sentence structure indicated that the concept of consensus ITSELF is relative, not the idea being considered for consensus.

SORRY, JUST GRAMMAR GEEKING. DISREGARD.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: Nigel on October 16, 2009, 05:18:33 AM
Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:52:48 AM

The beautiful about consensus is relative what amongst different groups.

The consensus amongst different groups of what is beautiful is very relative different.



Different groups at different times have disparate consensus about beauty.

Except that is not necessarily true. There are a few constants about the perception of human physical beauty, such as symmetry.

not perfect symmetry mind, that freaks our brains out.

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Quote from: Dimo1138 on October 15, 2009, 08:46:54 PM
  Found this in Academic Search Premier.

Talking: Smack. By: Dixit, Jay, Psychology Today
QuoteThe testosterone in saliva--and stimulation of our highly sensitive lips and tongues--may help trigger sex drive. Men exploit this, using kissing to induce sexual desire in women. Men may also unconsciously use kissing to assess the level of estrogen in a woman's saliva to determine her stage in the ovulation cycle and her fertility.

* TASTE TEST

Men are more likely than women to Initiate wet, open-mouthed, saliva-exchanging tongue kissing--since their senses of taste and smell are less acute, they need bigger, sloppier samples to gather enough information to assess compatibility.

* READ MY LIPS

The lips are nature's mood ring: They flush darker when a person is amused, signaling receptivity. Men are attracted to women with naturally large lips. which signal arousal and openness. Since lip plumpness peaks at age 14 in females, full lips also connote youth and good health.

I'll get back to you about the eyes.

The study I mention found eyes to follow the same kind of patters relative to the general hardship measure with the eyes as it did with hips/height etc.  So yes those matter.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on October 16, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 16, 2009, 05:18:33 AM
Quote from: JohNyx on October 16, 2009, 04:52:48 AM

The beautiful about consensus is relative what amongst different groups.

The consensus amongst different groups of what is beautiful is very relative different.



Different groups at different times have disparate consensus about beauty.

Except that is not necessarily true. There are a few constants about the perception of human physical beauty, such as symmetry.

not perfect symmetry mind, that freaks our brains out.

True. I don't think mammals are capable of perfect symmetry though, so what happens is our brains interpret perfectly symmetrical faces as artificial. Uncanny valley.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."