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Started by Lies, October 12, 2009, 06:53:29 PM

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Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Kai

If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM
Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls".

HOW DO I RADIONICS?

TGRR,
Has his targets all picked out, but has offended the Voodoo Gods.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Kai

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 12, 2009, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM
Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls".

HOW DO I RADIONICS?

TGRR,
Has his targets all picked out, but has offended the Voodoo Gods.

Thats my point. You take something that signifies a person and you use it as a focus for "healing". Its voodun.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Shibboleet The Annihilator


Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Golden Applesauce

Quote from: Lysergic on October 13, 2009, 05:12:50 AM
Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 12, 2009, 06:53:29 PM
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=9125003792513982191#

Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls". If that doesn't tell you enough, check out the wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radionics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

Electromagnetic radiation (e.g., light) has momentum.  When it strikes a surface and is reflected, its momentum changes, and because momentum is conserved, the thing it bounces off of gains momentum equal and opposite to the change in momentum of the photon.

Nature always balances her books.
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A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM

Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls". If that doesn't tell you enough, check out the wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radionics

This concept sort of reminds me of the Star Trek episode Catspaw. Compare:

Radionics:
QuoteRadionics is the use of blood, hair, a signature, or other substances unique to the person as a focus to supposedly heal a patient from afar

Star Trek:
QuoteIn the mythology of your race this is called sympathetic magic. Jackson, the crew member who returned to the ship. You wondered what killed him. I made an image of him. In the essence of my thoughts the image was Jackson. And when I killed the image and knew that it was dead, he died

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Radionics:
QuoteModern practitioners now conceptualize these devices merely as a focusing aid to the practitioner's proclaimed dowsing abilities, and claim that there is no longer any need for the device to have any demonstrable function. Indeed, Abrams' black boxes had no purpose of their own, being merely obfuscated collections of wires and electronic parts

Star Trek:
QuoteKIRK: I wasn't sure before, but I am now. This is the source of your power, isn't it. The transmuter.
SYLVIA: No, not the source. It's merely an amplifier. The mind is the source. Mine is simple, but yours has the key but you don't know how to use it.
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He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 13, 2009, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM

Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls". If that doesn't tell you enough, check out the wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radionics

This concept sort of reminds me of the Star Trek episode Catspaw. Compare:

Radionics:
QuoteRadionics is the use of blood, hair, a signature, or other substances unique to the person as a focus to supposedly heal a patient from afar

Star Trek:
QuoteIn the mythology of your race this is called sympathetic magic. Jackson, the crew member who returned to the ship. You wondered what killed him. I made an image of him. In the essence of my thoughts the image was Jackson. And when I killed the image and knew that it was dead, he died

-------------------------------------------------------------

Radionics:
QuoteModern practitioners now conceptualize these devices merely as a focusing aid to the practitioner's proclaimed dowsing abilities, and claim that there is no longer any need for the device to have any demonstrable function. Indeed, Abrams' black boxes had no purpose of their own, being merely obfuscated collections of wires and electronic parts

Star Trek:
QuoteKIRK: I wasn't sure before, but I am now. This is the source of your power, isn't it. The transmuter.
SYLVIA: No, not the source. It's merely an amplifier. The mind is the source. Mine is simple, but yours has the key but you don't know how to use it.

^^^ That's really the only sentence you needed.
All sympathetic magic is sympathetic magic.
Why might a particular model or technique of sympathetic magic work?

Kai

Quote from: yhnmzw on October 13, 2009, 08:36:14 PM

Why might a particular model or technique of sympathetic magic work?

Chi.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

LMNO


Triple Zero

Quote from: GA on October 13, 2009, 05:49:25 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 13, 2009, 05:12:50 AM
Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 12, 2009, 06:53:29 PM
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=9125003792513982191#

Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls". If that doesn't tell you enough, check out the wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radionics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

Electromagnetic radiation (e.g., light) has momentum.  When it strikes a surface and is reflected, its momentum changes, and because momentum is conserved, the thing it bounces off of gains momentum equal and opposite to the change in momentum of the photon.

Nature always balances her books.

Actually, if you read the wikipedia article, you will find that the initial assumption of radiation pressure powering the vanes was proven incorrect. It is in fact some sort of tricky thermic turbulence of the residual air molecules thing going on that pushes the vanes around, as can be deduced from the fact that the device only works in a "weak" vacuum. As soon as they figured out how to make "harder" vacuums, with better pumps, the device stops working because there aren't enough molecules left in the bulb to push the vanes around.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on October 13, 2009, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: GA on October 13, 2009, 05:49:25 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 13, 2009, 05:12:50 AM
Quote from: Kai on October 12, 2009, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on October 12, 2009, 06:53:29 PM
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=9125003792513982191#

Radionics is essentially like "voodoo dolls". If that doesn't tell you enough, check out the wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radionics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

Electromagnetic radiation (e.g., light) has momentum.  When it strikes a surface and is reflected, its momentum changes, and because momentum is conserved, the thing it bounces off of gains momentum equal and opposite to the change in momentum of the photon.

Nature always balances her books.

Actually, if you read the wikipedia article, you will find that the initial assumption of radiation pressure powering the vanes was proven incorrect. It is in fact some sort of tricky thermic turbulence of the residual air molecules thing going on that pushes the vanes around, as can be deduced from the fact that the device only works in a "weak" vacuum. As soon as they figured out how to make "harder" vacuums, with better pumps, the device stops working because there aren't enough molecules left in the bulb to push the vanes around.

Exactly, Its not an absolute vacuum but its pretty close. There is a temperature difference and a pressure difference on each side of each fin, (not quite 'Lift' but kinda similar).
It moves because it is low mass and there is low friction between the blades and the axle, increase the mass or the friction and it stops working.
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