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Cain


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Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2012, 08:14:46 PM
Watching The Man With The Iron Fists right now.

It's...Tarantino.  And RZA, and Eli Roth?  What else can I say?  Feudal Chinese Kung Fu fights set to a hip-hop track is what you're gonna get, whether you want it or not.

Saw that last night, thought it was fun and enough kick ass to satisfy the trailers promises. I went in thinking it was Tarantino, turns out he just leant his production team to the RZA who wrote, directed and starred as the lead role.
My only gripe with it was the really out of place and in your face LACK of nudity. They have graphic sex scenes of a multitude of people and everyone is covered up, there is a sex scene with that wrestler guy who immediately turns around and is wearing some kind of thong?

Lets show someone getting their front split slowly in half by a spinning knife but we can't show anyone tits because that would be obscene.

Quote from: holist on December 12, 2012, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 02, 2012, 06:45:47 PM
His Kingdom Hospital show he did with Steven King was quite unique, It falls apart towards the end but for the most part its really entertaining.

But Riget, Lars von Trier's original, Danish series about a haunted hospital... is the real deal.

I think misery is something that happens to most everyone, so making films about it is justified.

Trier's THe Idiots was brilliant. And so was Dogville, even though it was about misery (and retribution - the ending would be right up Roger's street) And so was his little act of getting banned from Cannes.

Horror movies, on the other hand... I don't watch those. I have plenty to scare me without ridiculous plot-lines and unrealistic horrors.
I saw the idiots years ago and didn't think it was bad, can't say I thought much of antichrist.

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on December 12, 2012, 05:25:04 PM
I haven't seen any recent movies. The only one I'm considering is the one with the little girl with the monsters in the Lousiana swamps, because I keep getting such great word of mouth on it.

What I've been doing is downloading old stuff. Mostly post-silent but pre-code. Mae West, Bette Davis, Jean Harlow, Marlene Dietrich.
Holy fuck, that old shit is awesome. If you haven't seen Blue Angel but only heard of it (the way I alway did), grab it.  8)

I'm making an exception for Sunset Boulevard. It was made much later but it's hilarious in a Dragnet kind of way. Watched half last night until my laptop battery died and will finish tonight.  :)
I've only ever seen Witness for the prosecution and Touch of evil of Marlene Dietrichs but I'd love to go back to her earlier films. Though they came much much later I loved some of Liz Taylors old films, Suddenly last summer has some very fucked up psychological aspects and my all time favourite move ever is still Who's afraid of Virgina Woolf, I've never seen a film with more cutting, tragic funny and vicious dialogue then that.
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Cain

QuoteSaw that last night, thought it was fun and enough kick ass to satisfy the trailers promises. I went in thinking it was Tarantino, turns out he just leant his production team to the RZA who wrote, directed and starred as the lead role.
My only gripe with it was the really out of place and in your face LACK of nudity. They have graphic sex scenes of a multitude of people and everyone is covered up, there is a sex scene with that wrestler guy who immediately turns around and is wearing some kind of thong?

Lets show someone getting their front split slowly in half by a spinning knife but we can't show anyone tits because that would be obscene.

Ah yes, re-watching the credits, I did notice that.  Still, if he's allowing them to use his name, he must be at least somewhat happy with the results.

The nudity thing is weird, but I think in general that's an American thing.  Ultraviolence = all cool.  Slipped nipple = weeks of outrage.  And so on and so forth.

Cain

Also, it could be just me, but Russell Crowe is starting to remind me a lot of Stephen Fry.  Which adds a somewhat surreal edge to any scene he is in.

Faust

Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
Also, it could be just me, but Russell Crowe is starting to remind me a lot of Stephen Fry.  Which adds a somewhat surreal edge to any scene he is in.
No I picked up on it too... He is getting a little rounder at the belly and had a brittish accent both of which suit him well.
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Suu

Reviews for the Hobbit are coming and, and they are, unsurprising, not good.  I mean, it apparently takes the first hour to leave the fucking Shire, and I have to wait 2 more years to see Smaug. There is no reason other than money to have made 3 movies out of it. I could see 2 as a just in case, but 3? When the first one is almost 3 hours long? REALLY?

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Quote from: hølist on October 06, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
...middle-class people who don't really have anything wrong in their lives...

I seriously think that's an oxymoron. Middle-class people may have comfortable lives. But there is practically always something wrong in them.
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Quote from: Suu on December 13, 2012, 07:18:47 PM
Reviews for the Hobbit are coming and, and they are, unsurprising, not good.  I mean, it apparently takes the first hour to leave the fucking Shire, and I have to wait 2 more years to see Smaug. There is no reason other than money to have made 3 movies out of it. I could see 2 as a just in case, but 3? When the first one is almost 3 hours long? REALLY?

My only beefs are: Not enough singing, and GET RADAGAST THE FUCK OUT WHAT THE FUCK DUDE??? YOU DIDN'T ADD BOMBADIL BUT SHOVE RADAGAST IN????????

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: H0list on December 16, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 13, 2012, 07:18:47 PM
Reviews for the Hobbit are coming and, and they are, unsurprising, not good.  I mean, it apparently takes the first hour to leave the fucking Shire, and I have to wait 2 more years to see Smaug. There is no reason other than money to have made 3 movies out of it. I could see 2 as a just in case, but 3? When the first one is almost 3 hours long? REALLY?

My only beefs are: Not enough singing, and GET RADAGAST THE FUCK OUT WHAT THE FUCK DUDE??? YOU DIDN'T ADD BOMBADIL BUT SHOVE RADAGAST IN????????

The bolded, times a hundred. That shit better be in the extended DVD release. "Over the Misty Mountains" is among my favorite things, and the bastards cropped it.

And Radagast... played a little too batshit-loopy for my taste, but since they were dead-set on incorporating the Necromancer plotline I appreciated seeing him in the film. I could see why, if given the choice between Bombadil and Radagast, they'd put Radagast in.

Still would have liked to see the jolly old weirdo, though. Talk about mindfucking a mainstream audience.

Cain

I saw The Hobbit.

I'm kinda "eh" about the whole thing.  It really is too long for cinema viewing.  Also strangely boring in places.

If this is going to be a trilogy, then I can only assume that the role of the Necromancer, and Gandalf, are going to be enhanced even further, with Gandalf's breaching of Dol Guldur actually taking up screen time, unlike in the book where it all happened offstage (and, if I recall correctly, was not even mentioned until LOTR).

I didn't think it was terrible, or that all the additions were bad, the Orcs hunting Thorin, while definitely not canonical, make sense and are done well, but it can't decide whether it wants to follow the book and be a children's story, or act as a prequel to the LOTR trilogy.  Gandalf's meeting with the White Council is a perfect example of this.  I appreciated it, as it shows the Gandalf from the trilogy we all know and love, the canny, far-thinking leader who acts to remove a threat before it becomes a more serious problem: namely, if Sauron returns, Smaug will almost certainly join his side in battle.  But at the same time, that's more relevant to Jackson's other trilogy than it is to this film.

Also, I saw Django Unchained yesterday.

I wanted to like this film.  I really did.  And it's not awful.  It just feels like Tarantino isn't really trying.  Or that he needs a strong editorial hand to keep him on track.  As we all know, Tarantino has two great strengths - individual scenes, and dialogue.  His failing is being able to link those scenes effectively into a larger narrative.  Inappropriate humour interspersed with ultraviolence.  A tone that falls all over the place.  And that's very evident in this film.

Half the time, it felt like I was watching comedy skits of the Antebellum era.  Wanna-be KKKers unable to see out of their masks properly.  Dr Schultz's goddamn tooth on top of his cart.  Horses doing dressage moves.  That blue suit.

There's also the larger problem with the story, which is the way it dangles the possibility of slave revolt over our heads a fair few times, only to snatch it away with Django's one-man mission of vengeance.

Tarantino could've done real justice to the brutality and violence of slavery.  And in a few scenes, he comes close.  Only for everything to be undone by the other problems with the film and an ending which, to put it mildly, is lacklustre.

Faust

Sounds kind of like Inglorious bastards so, all over the place, schizo tone. I just hope the ending isn't as much of a cop out as IB was.
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Cain

You may well be disappointed, then.

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The Moonrise Kingdom is great.

So is Bombón, El Perro... in a very different way.
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Gray's Anatomy. Spalding Gray telling the story of his macular pucker. Brilliant.
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haven't really been following this thread so this might be repost but has anyone seen John dies at the end??

Reminded me of what naked lunch would have been like if it hadn't been abject shite instead.

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