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Started by LMNO, October 27, 2009, 12:22:46 PM

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Balls.  Scientology is wonderful.

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Richter

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 28, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 27, 2009, 07:15:37 PM
They're classified as a cult in the state of Rhode Island and aren't allowed to set up shop here. Which is why they have a missionary somewhere near New Bedford that all the Newportese can flock to.

Wait what?  Don't cultists have the same right to freedom of religion as everyone else?

What about the rights of the people they recruit, extort, or swindle, and the families thereof? Did their right not to be messed around with by people with a weird, catchy philosophy ever get considered?

You also have the right to fuck your life up entirely.

I don't want anyone "protecting" me from "bad ideas".  Even ideas as bad as Scientology.

Agreed. 
I don't object to ideas, I object to people applying them to harm or use others others.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 07:28:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 28, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 27, 2009, 07:15:37 PM
They're classified as a cult in the state of Rhode Island and aren't allowed to set up shop here. Which is why they have a missionary somewhere near New Bedford that all the Newportese can flock to.

Wait what?  Don't cultists have the same right to freedom of religion as everyone else?

What about the rights of the people they recruit, extort, or swindle, and the families thereof? Did their right not to be messed around with by people with a weird, catchy philosophy ever get considered?

You also have the right to fuck your life up entirely.

I don't want anyone "protecting" me from "bad ideas".  Even ideas as bad as Scientology.

Agreed. 
I don't object to ideas, I object to people applying them to harm or use others others.

I could make the same argument with regard to the Catholic Church.  Or that Church that makes everyone crazy, whattayacallit, oh yeah...us.
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 27, 2009, 07:15:37 PM
They're classified as a cult in the state of Rhode Island and aren't allowed to set up shop here. Which is why they have a missionary somewhere near New Bedford that all the Newportese can flock to.

Wait what?  Don't cultists have the same right to freedom of religion as everyone else?

What about the rights of the people they recruit, extort, or swindle, and the families thereof? Did their right not to be messed around with by people with a weird, catchy philosophy ever get considered?

Seriously?  As someone with a weird, catchy philosophy, which includes messing people around as one of it's core tenants I have to say.  NO lets not consider that imaginary right.

So...you're bouncing from freedom of religion being an important right, to rights being imaginary.   
You're correct that they are, just ideas humans stick to because they think they're nice, but your chameleon like shift of colors makes it very easy to disregard you.

I'm happy that you're so well versed in what I consider my beliefs to be, too.  You fuckup, look up exactly how Scientology has "messed with" people, hang around until you get a sense for how people here do things, and you'll find a few differences.
Stop trying to put words into other people's mouths while your own is still full from eating the menu. 


I don't know what your beliefs are.  I know what my beliefs are.  Also, Freedom of religion is a constitutional right, freedom from being messed with isn't a right that's enshrined in any documents so far as I can tell.

If the scientologists are commiting fraud, assault, or other crimes, sure, prosecute them, as individuals.  However barring a religion from a state is against the basis of the country.  Whether that religion is scientology, the church of Manson, Jim Jonesism, Mormonism or any other cult.

And ooh!  Either I am being trolled or I actually pissed someone off. I feel as if I have passed some sort of threshold.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 07:30:37 PM

And ooh!  Either I am being trolled or I actually pissed someone off. I feel as if I have passed some sort of threshold.

Neither.  You just caught Richter on his rageout day.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Richter

Yup.

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Richter on October 28, 2009, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 28, 2009, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 27, 2009, 07:15:37 PM
They're classified as a cult in the state of Rhode Island and aren't allowed to set up shop here. Which is why they have a missionary somewhere near New Bedford that all the Newportese can flock to.

Wait what?  Don't cultists have the same right to freedom of religion as everyone else?

What about the rights of the people they recruit, extort, or swindle, and the families thereof? Did their right not to be messed around with by people with a weird, catchy philosophy ever get considered?

Seriously?  As someone with a weird, catchy philosophy, which includes messing people around as one of it's core tenants I have to say.  NO lets not consider that imaginary right.

So...you're bouncing from freedom of religion being an important right, to rights being imaginary.   
You're correct that they are, just ideas humans stick to because they think they're nice, but your chameleon like shift of colors makes it very easy to disregard you.

I'm happy that you're so well versed in what I consider my beliefs to be, too.  You fuckup, look up exactly how Scientology has "messed with" people, hang around until you get a sense for how people here do things, and you'll find a few differences.
Stop trying to put words into other people's mouths while your own is still full from eating the menu. 


I don't know what your beliefs are.  I know what my beliefs are.  Also, Freedom of religion is a constitutional right, freedom from being messed with isn't a right that's enshrined in any documents so far as I can tell.

If the scientologists are commiting fraud, assault, or other crimes, sure, prosecute them, as individuals.  However barring a religion from a state is against the basis of the country.  Whether that religion is scientology, the church of Manson, Jim Jonesism, Mormonism or any other cult.

And ooh!  Either I am being trolled or I actually pissed someone off. I feel as if I have passed some sort of threshold.

A church is only a church so long as it has PEOPLE though.  It's just ideas on paper otherwise, so we're on the same page as far as those being the ones to go after.


Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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