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LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!

Started by Cain, October 29, 2009, 04:17:34 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Maybe you already said, but MornTheOrator, where are you from? I'm just curious.

Also, the Latin in all caps thing made me chuckle.
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MornTheOrator

Why, the people and the first chamber of The Hague of course, otherwise known as the Kingdom of the Netherlands.


'She kind of looks like Queen Slug-for-a-But upside down, assuming her butt hair looks like pincers.'

Though, if The World offered citizenship I would consider applying for it just to annoy Wilders for having a double nationality.

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Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: MornTheOrator on October 31, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 31, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
wow. that was like listening to a creationist argue science.

why would Cain believe any western propaganda?
what would make you think he would?
just curious.
Because Cain's not superhuman I assume?

The very fact that you ask this is a strong indication you do too and are ignorant of it. I do too, but I'm not ignorant about it, propaganda shapes our lives and colours our very being. There's a reason every single person thinks in terms like 'enemy' and 'ally' and thinks that the values of their own culture are the best.

There is no conceivable way except being superhuman to escape its influence, it's every where, all cultures make their citizens believe they have nice things like freedom of expression, diversity, proper morals, allies have them less, enemies lack them altogether. In reality no culture has them and they all just ascribe it to self and believe their own propaganda probably.

That a lot of people in the west seem to think that North Koreans live in poverty and the nation is on the verge of collapse is just the tip of the iceberg. There are countless more things, Turks, Maroccans and Iranians have nothing related except their 'faith' and they even disagree and openly hate each other because they practice different schools of Islam. It's like saying Peru and British culture is related because it's both dominantly Christian. Iran really isn't any thing less technologically sophisticated as the west because scientific knowledge is open source for one. Conversely, in Iran they only get told the worst parts about the west and only hear the best parts of their own country. That some suspects of terrorism (propaganda talk for 'freedom fighter') get tortured is the tip of the iceberg. Sure you hear all the time about 'OMG, ANOTHER IRANIAN WAS PUT TO DEATH FOR BEING RAPED' but that's a seldom occasion there. And in the US people are put into jail for yawning in court as observers because the judge found it 'indecent conduct', it's an exception, but that's what they hear in Iran.

Propaganda is omnipræsent, patriotism is propaganda talk for propaganda. There is no way a human being without a mind so resilient that it fails to absorb any moral and cultural norms and thus be classed as sociopathic can not significantly be influenced by it. The very fact that about all people would rather not live in a completely different culture, no matter in what culture they grew up, and that this trend continues if they were adopted from another culture should say enough. Children are simply brainwashed to love their own culture, not on purpose, and this is what keeps a culture from collapsing in the end.

for real this time-  TL;DR

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MornTheOrator

Quote from: Squid on November 01, 2009, 07:42:11 AM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on October 31, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 31, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
wow. that was like listening to a creationist argue science.

why would Cain believe any western propaganda?
what would make you think he would?
just curious.
Because Cain's not superhuman I assume?

The very fact that you ask this is a strong indication you do too and are ignorant of it. I do too, but I'm not ignorant about it, propaganda shapes our lives and colours our very being. There's a reason every single person thinks in terms like 'enemy' and 'ally' and thinks that the values of their own culture are the best.

There is no conceivable way except being superhuman to escape its influence, it's every where, all cultures make their citizens believe they have nice things like freedom of expression, diversity, proper morals, allies have them less, enemies lack them altogether. In reality no culture has them and they all just ascribe it to self and believe their own propaganda probably.

That a lot of people in the west seem to think that North Koreans live in poverty and the nation is on the verge of collapse is just the tip of the iceberg. There are countless more things, Turks, Maroccans and Iranians have nothing related except their 'faith' and they even disagree and openly hate each other because they practice different schools of Islam. It's like saying Peru and British culture is related because it's both dominantly Christian. Iran really isn't any thing less technologically sophisticated as the west because scientific knowledge is open source for one. Conversely, in Iran they only get told the worst parts about the west and only hear the best parts of their own country. That some suspects of terrorism (propaganda talk for 'freedom fighter') get tortured is the tip of the iceberg. Sure you hear all the time about 'OMG, ANOTHER IRANIAN WAS PUT TO DEATH FOR BEING RAPED' but that's a seldom occasion there. And in the US people are put into jail for yawning in court as observers because the judge found it 'indecent conduct', it's an exception, but that's what they hear in Iran.

Propaganda is omnipræsent, patriotism is propaganda talk for propaganda. There is no way a human being without a mind so resilient that it fails to absorb any moral and cultural norms and thus be classed as sociopathic can not significantly be influenced by it. The very fact that about all people would rather not live in a completely different culture, no matter in what culture they grew up, and that this trend continues if they were adopted from another culture should say enough. Children are simply brainwashed to love their own culture, not on purpose, and this is what keeps a culture from collapsing in the end.

for real this time-  TL;DR

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
It was a clever ploy to take 30 seconds of your time by letting you type that, and you played right into my hands.

Edit: no tell me, what motivates people like you to waste datafields, glucose, and time just to let the world know they don't like to read?

Sir Squid Diddimus

PS- I'm just killing time before I pass out.

Did you at least think while posting? Cause I didn't.

Hell I even flblarghbliffffffffffffffff
you're boring.

MornTheOrator

Quote from: Squid on November 01, 2009, 08:01:22 AM
PS- I'm just killing time before I pass out.

Did you at least think while posting? Cause I didn't.
Hardly, it's a stream of consciousness.

QuoteHell I even flblarghbliffffffffffffffff
you're boring.
Then I win because I find you amusing, life can be so unfair eh?

Sir Squid Diddimus

that's the dumbest god damned thing I've ever heard.
sorry, no.

You think that's amusing? Wait till I'm awake.
You poor poor bastard.

You win nothing. Nothing. No consolation prize, no second place, no coupon,  NOTHING.

boring ass shZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

MornTheOrator

Captain, our long range sensors have detected a slight annoyance.

Sir Squid Diddimus

 :|  meh

i have hiccups.
those are annoying.
I'm going to bed cause I'm tired.

later fool.

Quote from: MornTheOrator on October 31, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 31, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
wow. that was like listening to a creationist argue science.

why would Cain believe any western propaganda?
what would make you think he would?
just curious.
Because Cain's not superhuman I assume?
This is how assumptions can get you into trouble.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 07:43:48 AM

It was a clever ploy to take 30 seconds of your time by letting you type that, and you played right into my hands.

Edit: no tell me, what motivates people like you to waste datafields, glucose, and time just to let the world know they don't like to read?

WE HAVE ACHIEVED SOCIOLOGICAL EXPERIMENT, ITT.  AND WE DID JUST AS HE EXPECTED.
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on October 31, 2009, 07:26:10 PM
Maybe you already said, but MornTheOrator, where are you from? I'm just curious.

Also, the Latin in all caps thing made me chuckle.

He's from a place where, apparently, incest and lolicon are good things.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Sir Squid Diddimus

I vote he be pulled out of Cain's thread and shoved into his own.
You can take my comments with them.

If you feel like it :shrug: