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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, October 30, 2009, 05:56:08 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#60
November 05, 2009, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 05, 2009, 07:08:32 PM
I watched that movie, Blood Diamond, by myself in the movie theater when it came out.  It illustrated that point about child soldiers REALLY well.  Almost too well.  Fuck me that was a harsh movie to watch. 

I didn't, and I won't.  It would be redundant information.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#61
November 05, 2009, 07:14:37 PM
It's completely understandable.  Many (most, all, whatever) kids are starting to develop their ethical and moral sensibilities around that time.

Tell them it's natural and normal to torture, maim, and mutilate another human being for whatever reason, and they will do it without blinking.

The Good Reverend Roger

#62
November 05, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 07:14:37 PM
It's completely understandable.  Many (most, all, whatever) kids are starting to develop their ethical and moral sensibilities around that time.

Tell them it's natural and normal to torture, maim, and mutilate another human being for whatever reason, and they will do it without blinking.

Precisely.  Just as a baby that hasn't learned to smile during the first year of life never will smile.  Fact.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

#63
November 05, 2009, 07:16:14 PM
It's sort of the same psychology found in street gangs in the US.  These are the people raising you, their ethics become yours because they feed you and protect you from the outside world.

LMNO

#64
November 05, 2009, 07:16:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 07:16:07 PM

Precisely.  Just as a baby that hasn't learned to smile during the first year of life never will smile.  Fact.

Wait, what?



Srsly?

The Good Reverend Roger

#65
November 05, 2009, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 07:16:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 07:16:07 PM

Precisely.  Just as a baby that hasn't learned to smile during the first year of life never will smile.  Fact.

Wait, what?



Srsly?

So I have read.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

#66
November 05, 2009, 07:18:39 PM
I haven't heard that, but I know a baby that is never touched dies within the first year of birth.

LMNO

#67
November 05, 2009, 07:19:09 PM
FORGOT TO TOUCH THE BABY.  TWEET ME BACK.

The Good Reverend Roger

#68
November 05, 2009, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 05, 2009, 07:18:39 PM
I haven't heard that, but I know a baby that is never touched dies within the first year of birth.

Both of these things were discovered during studies on children being raised in state orphanages in the early part of the last century.  Children shown insufficient attention (particularly tactile attention) "turned to the wall" and died.

Children who didn't learn to smile never smiled as a natural reaction for their entire lives, and some were unable to smile, period.

Websense is blocking all the relevant pages.  If you'd like, I'll try to dig up the studies tonight.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#69
November 05, 2009, 07:30:15 PM
Because I'm still analysing AngelTech, this all makes perfect sense in terms of the 8C model.

The Good Reverend Roger

#70
November 05, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 07:30:15 PM
Because I'm still analysing AngelTech, this all makes perfect sense in terms of the 8C model.



Angel Tech?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

#71
November 05, 2009, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 07:30:15 PM
Because I'm still analysing AngelTech, this all makes perfect sense in terms of the 8C model.



Angel Tech?

Literate Chaotic bookclub fread.

LMNO

#72
November 05, 2009, 07:42:05 PM
It's a further exploration of the 8-Circuit model -- some of it is crap, some of it is gold.

I'm getting all Sophomore Year Lit Major on it's ass, and breaking it down by chapter.

Jenne

#73
November 05, 2009, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 05, 2009, 07:18:39 PM
I haven't heard that, but I know a baby that is never touched dies within the first year of birth.

Both of these things were discovered during studies on children being raised in state orphanages in the early part of the last century.  Children shown insufficient attention (particularly tactile attention) "turned to the wall" and died.

Children who didn't learn to smile never smiled as a natural reaction for their entire lives, and some were unable to smile, period.

Websense is blocking all the relevant pages.  If you'd like, I'll try to dig up the studies tonight.

S'ok.  I am not surprised and believe you--can also do the research myself.  But thanks for offering.  I think a lot of child psychology stuff must've been done back then--kids didn't have the 1st world protections of the laws they do now.  Anything went back then (still does, but now it's done dirty and in the dark as opposed to out in the open waiting for some hero to come and bludgeon ya to death for getting caught).

The Good Reverend Roger

#74
February 03, 2011, 06:39:23 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on November 01, 2009, 09:09:36 PM
It's never an 'isolated incident', is it?

I mean. When you realize, there were these guys doing that. Then there were the people smuggling them. Then there were the people on the other end. Then there were the people using the product. Then there were the people who, in some way, these events all touched.

This is probably the most important paragraph posted on PD in 2009, and not because it references my OP.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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