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Started by Suu, November 07, 2009, 03:36:15 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Triple Zero on November 08, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
I'm kind of confused why you would ever start giving your kid crap food? :?

It's your kid after all, I mean, sure enough sooner or later they're going to want to have it cause all the other kids are having it or they got it at a party or visiting friends or whatever, but I'd want to postpone that moment for as long as possible, and even then ration it as a very special treat. Or maybe that's just how I was raised and how I see my friends with kids raise theirs. Funny thing is, if you give them only healthy food from a young age, usually you will discover some kind of really weird (but healthy) thing that they're absolutely crazy about, be it raw mushrooms, grated carrots with raisins or broccoli stem sticks in yoghurt-based dip, I've heard it all :) it differs greatly from kid to kid though.

Lots of people give their kids breakfast cereals, cookies, crackers, chips, spaghettios, peanut butter and jelly on white bread, bagels; shit like that. There are a lot of foods marketed toward kids that have a very high glycemic index and not a lot of nutrients.

My kids eat a lot of meat and vegetables, drink whole milk, and like brown rice and whole wheat bread, but if I buy a bag of Cheesy Poofs they will tear through that shit in minutes flat. For some people, it's easier to just give their kids the crap they ask for, rather than only having healthy stuff around.
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KopyKat253

Quote from: Nigel on November 08, 2009, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 08, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
I'm kind of confused why you would ever start giving your kid crap food? :?

It's your kid after all, I mean, sure enough sooner or later they're going to want to have it cause all the other kids are having it or they got it at a party or visiting friends or whatever, but I'd want to postpone that moment for as long as possible, and even then ration it as a very special treat. Or maybe that's just how I was raised and how I see my friends with kids raise theirs. Funny thing is, if you give them only healthy food from a young age, usually you will discover some kind of really weird (but healthy) thing that they're absolutely crazy about, be it raw mushrooms, grated carrots with raisins or broccoli stem sticks in yoghurt-based dip, I've heard it all :) it differs greatly from kid to kid though.

Lots of people give their kids breakfast cereals, cookies, crackers, chips, spaghettios, peanut butter and jelly on white bread, bagels; shit like that. There are a lot of foods marketed toward kids that have a very high glycemic index and not a lot of nutrients.

My kids eat a lot of meat and vegetables, drink whole milk, and like brown rice and whole wheat bread, but if I buy a bag of Cheesy Poofs they will tear through that shit in minutes flat.For some people, it's easier to just give their kids the crap they ask for, rather than only having healthy stuff around.

Some times those parents just need to learn to say no to their kids.
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Golden Applesauce

While healthy eating is important, sugary foods aren't actually linked to hyperactivity unless the child or whoever is watching the child believes that the child has consumed sugary things.

Two abstracts, don't have full article access.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2959193

http://www.springerlink.com/content/kx10890h33351475/
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Quote from: GA on November 08, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
While healthy eating is important, sugary foods aren't actually linked to hyperactivity unless the child or whoever is watching the child believes that the child has consumed sugary things.

Two abstracts, don't have full article access.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2959193

http://www.springerlink.com/content/kx10890h33351475/

So you don't think sugar makes children hyper? Cause a couple articles say that?
Callin bullshit. Especially after watching my kid do a 180 after removing as much as I could from his diet.

Quote from: Triple Zero on November 08, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
I'm kind of confused why you would ever start giving your kid crap food? :?

It's your kid after all, I mean, sure enough sooner or later they're going to want to have it cause all the other kids are having it or they got it at a party or visiting friends or whatever, but I'd want to postpone that moment for as long as possible, and even then ration it as a very special treat. Or maybe that's just how I was raised and how I see my friends with kids raise theirs. Funny thing is, if you give them only healthy food from a young age, usually you will discover some kind of really weird (but healthy) thing that they're absolutely crazy about, be it raw mushrooms, grated carrots with raisins or broccoli stem sticks in yoghurt-based dip, I've heard it all :) it differs greatly from kid to kid though.

Sometimes it's a case of the other parent sneaking them crap that they beg for behind the one parent's back. Sometimes it's that a lot of people don't live close enough to a cheap farmer's market to buy good cheap produce so they feed their kids the 99 cent ho ho's instead of the 3.99 bell pepper. There are a lot of factors. It could also be brainwashing advertising. The kids see it, throw themselves on the ground screaming for it and some parents cave.
Your way of thinking is the way it should be IMO

Quote from: Suu on November 08, 2009, 05:39:38 PM
A can of Coke used to make my brother pass out. He drinks coffee to go to bed. Boy is 100% misfiring up thar. My sister and I used to get mad that my brother could have soda and we couldn't.  :argh!:

Fightin fire with fire. I've seen people do this.

Suu

If a non ADHD person takes ADHD medications, they're uppers. I'm sure you've seen what illegal use of Ritalin and Adderal can do. So my mom tested the theory that caffeine would work the same way, and hot damn it did.

Ritalin did work on my brother, but it left him really irritable when he was coming off of the stuff. So he was only given a pill for school. (We called it The Pill, affectionately.) Once he was taken off of Ritalin when he went into middle school, he gained a substantial amount of weight despite the fact that we were all very active healthy kids. He dropped out of Taekwondo and let his grades drop because whatever it did burned something that made him happy. He had a solid 5 year turn around before he snapped out of it. They put him on Concerta for high school, but he didn't like the way it made him feel, so he stopped taking meds all together and learned to focus using caffeine (and pot.) He dropped out of high school when he moved to Rhode Island because the school system said that ADHD kids were special ed and that he needed to be tested for autism. My parents pretty much told them to fuck off.

For a while we thought he was outgrowing it, but even at 24 years old he can still be really bad. Like up and pacing the floors and looking for something to do at ALL TIMES bad. This is why he loves cooking, because he can be a million places at once in a kitchen.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: GA on November 08, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
While healthy eating is important, sugary foods aren't actually linked to hyperactivity unless the child or whoever is watching the child believes that the child has consumed sugary things.

Two abstracts, don't have full article access.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2959193

http://www.springerlink.com/content/kx10890h33351475/

It's not "sugary foods" per se, it's foods with a high glycemic index that cause glucose and insulin fluctuations that affect mood, behavior, and concentration. This is pretty well-documented but for some reason most people think the research only pertains to diabetics and hypoglycemics.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Cramulus on November 08, 2009, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: Richter on November 08, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
A diagnosis should be a suggestion, not a validation.

:potd:

Skipping a page and a half of thread to say, "seconded."


All this talk of head-drugs is fueling a rant about my little blue pills I might post here soon...

LMNO

Uh, guys?

You do know that psychology is a sham, and that all so-called "mental illnesses" are actually caused by body Thetans, right?

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Quote from: LMNO on November 09, 2009, 01:10:12 PM
Uh, guys?

You do know that psychology is a sham, and that all so-called "mental illnesses" are actually caused by body Thetans, right?

That's why there aren't actual active ingredients in psych meds, only GTFO-tans.  Fucks up those body thetans hardcore.

KopyKat253

so thats why i never liked taking my meds...
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The mob doesn't like lexicographers.

Chief Uwachiquen

Quote from: Suu on November 08, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
If a non ADHD person takes ADHD medications, they're uppers. I'm sure you've seen what illegal use of Ritalin and Adderal can do. So my mom tested the theory that caffeine would work the same way, and hot damn it did.

Ritalin did work on my brother, but it left him really irritable when he was coming off of the stuff. So he was only given a pill for school. (We called it The Pill, affectionately.) Once he was taken off of Ritalin when he went into middle school, he gained a substantial amount of weight despite the fact that we were all very active healthy kids. He dropped out of Taekwondo and let his grades drop because whatever it did burned something that made him happy. He had a solid 5 year turn around before he snapped out of it. They put him on Concerta for high school, but he didn't like the way it made him feel, so he stopped taking meds all together and learned to focus using caffeine (and pot.) He dropped out of high school when he moved to Rhode Island because the school system said that ADHD kids were special ed and that he needed to be tested for autism. My parents pretty much told them to fuck off.

For a while we thought he was outgrowing it, but even at 24 years old he can still be really bad. Like up and pacing the floors and looking for something to do at ALL TIMES bad. This is why he loves cooking, because he can be a million places at once in a kitchen.

My grandma did the same thing for me except with coffee when I was little. If it was getting too close to bedtime and I was still too wound up she'd make me a cup of coffee. And then I grew up and ended up falling in love with the stuff. :argh!: Conspiracy, IMO.

I stopped taking meds in middle-school because they made my thoughts feel cloudy and muddled and I couldn't stand that. Although ADHD has helped me focus entirely too long on projects in one sitting that I REALLY wanted to get done quickly. Only downside is occasionally two, three, hours go by and I don't even realize it. >_<

Suu

That's exactly how my brother is and how he described the meds making him feel. When he was little I guess he didn't really understand how they were working, but once he was old enough to realize it, he wasn't pleased with the effects. That's why I will never understand the abuse of Adderal and Ritalin. If they make actual ADHD people feel uncomfortable, then why the HELL are you snorting the shit?

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I take my shit mostly FOR the side effects.   :lulz:
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Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2009, 05:35:47 PM
I take a shit mostly FOR the side effects.   :lulz:

how I read that.


squid= thinks the poopie humor is still funny.