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Started by The Wizard, November 30, 2009, 06:47:15 PM

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The Johnny

Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on December 01, 2009, 08:52:56 PM
I've spent yesterday thinking all of this over, including what you guys posted in response. And I decided that I'm going to embrace the confusion. I'm going to start experimenting with rapid switches in behavior. It will be fun, switching from deadpan serious to joyously manic to just plain weird. While I'm still a big fan of introspective, it seems that by thinking over and observing my own character, I'm changing it. So I just need to relax and go with the flow.

Meh; volitionaly switching your behaviour from "serious" to "joyously manic" i find it to be mere entertainment and approaching the issue superficially.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

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The Wizard

Quoteentertainment

That's sort of what I'm going for, at least in day to day interaction. I'm still going to be introspective, I'm just not going to bother myself with "who I am."
Insanity we trust.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on December 01, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
QuoteMissing the point, ITT.

Hmm. Okay, since there's something I'm missing then mind explaining it?

Your personality, everything you are, your essential self, your ego ... the whole damn shooting match either happens by action or by accident.

Decide which. Or be normal.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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The Wizard

Ah. I thought I made that clear. Action, definitely action.
Insanity we trust.

P3nT4gR4m

Yeah but I think you drastically underestimated rabbit hole depth.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Wizard

Hmm. Explain, please? I'm never sure whether I get what you mean or I'm way off.
Insanity we trust.

P3nT4gR4m

You're talking about "just not bothering with who I am" and making yourself happy and sad and shit. That's ass-backwards imo. Start with who you are, right down to your core beliefs, morality, emotional responses ... all the big defining stuff and wipe it the fuck out. Tear the tower down, one brick at a time, til there's nothing left that's recognisable as you and then build the whole thing back up the way you really want to be. It'll take fucking years of hard work and dedication but you'll end up what you want to be instead of a twitching bag of random instincts and drooling neurosis like 99.9% of our earths population.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Wizard

Okay. Now I got ya. Fair enough, I'll keep that in mind. More stuff to think about.
Insanity we trust.

The Johnny

If you only care about action and entertainment why even bother writing a rant like this.

Go watch some TV and after that perhaps go hiking.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Goddamnit, you're a fucking sack of meat

what is this "essential self" bullshit

go to goddamn California and live on a commune until you "find yourself™", hippie.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on December 01, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
QuoteMissing the point, ITT.

Hmm. Okay, since there's something I'm missing then mind explaining it?

Look, it's really easy.  Instead of acting like a manic-depressive, just act the way you want to act at any given time.  If you FORCE it, then you're just tossing on another mask.  It's just more bullshit.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on December 01, 2009, 09:11:32 PM
Quoteentertainment

That's sort of what I'm going for, at least in day to day interaction. I'm still going to be introspective, I'm just not going to bother myself with "who I am."

You and 6.75 billion other primates.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2009, 06:41:11 PM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on December 01, 2009, 09:11:32 PM
Quoteentertainment

That's sort of what I'm going for, at least in day to day interaction. I'm still going to be introspective, I'm just not going to bother myself with "who I am."

You and 6.75 billion other primates.

That's what I fucking hate about you Rog, I waste half a dozen posts and you manage to explain it perfectly with as many fucking words  :argh!:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Brotep

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 01, 2009, 09:28:59 PM
You're talking about "just not bothering with who I am" and making yourself happy and sad and shit. That's ass-backwards imo. Start with who you are, right down to your core beliefs, morality, emotional responses ... all the big defining stuff and wipe it the fuck out. Tear the tower down, one brick at a time, til there's nothing left that's recognisable as you and then build the whole thing back up the way you really want to be. It'll take fucking years of hard work and dedication but you'll end up what you want to be instead of a twitching bag of random instincts and drooling neurosis like 99.9% of our earths population.

But, aren't we the way we are because that is who we "really" want to be?

The Wizard

Okay. Where to start...

QuoteIf you FORCE it, then you're just tossing on another mask.  It's just more bullshit.
Valid enough point. I really need to phrase shit better. What I meant was that I was going to just go with the flow, not really worry about it. If I'm feeling serious then I'll act serious, if I'm feeling weird, I'll act in accordance. The way I put it pretty much fucked over what I meant, so my apologies.

Quotego to goddamn California and live on a commune until you "find yourself™", hippie.
Not much I can say in response. If you feel it's bullshit than, well, whatever works for you. I was just working out a couple self issues.

QuoteIf you only care about action and entertainment why even bother writing a rant like this.
Once again, I messed up my message. Instead of what I actually meant, I spewed out the other stuff. I wrote the rant because I had something that was bothering me, and I wanted some advice on it. I got said advice, thought it over, and concluded that the only thing that made sense was to just not worry about it.
Insanity we trust.